Bugga, timing belt snapped
Submitted: Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 13:20
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Mainey (wa)
The timing belt on the 2L diesel snapped yesterday, grr.
Gave no warning, just let go with no noise as I pulled up at some lights so engine was just about idling.
Pushed it off the road and checked, I could see it was not outa diesel, the engine cranked freely so I removed the oil cap on the rocker cover and cranked it knowing in my heart the o/h cam would not be moving, I was correct and I hated myself, my fault, I shoulda done the valve adjustments a few thousand km ago, I would have seen the belt was starting to fray then, grr.
Had it towed
home by RAC.
so the big question is:
HOW DO YOU TELL IF the VALVES or PISTONS are DAMAGED ?
-> "WITH-OUT" lifting the head, as it's a real *** of a job and the new belt has to go back over the cam drive gear on the head, I don't want to put it on, adjust the valve and pump timing and then remove it, just to replace some damaged pistons or bent valves etc. that I did not
check, for whatever reason.
Have removed the belt and it's a complete mess, cleaned the front valve train/gear cover and no damage there so will go to
Perth by bus and come back next week and fix the ol girl.
Mainey...
Reply By: furph - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 08:07
Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 08:07
Sadly its always easy to be wise in hindsite, but when was the belt last changed.
If recently you may have some recourse through the workshop who did the replacement.
There could
well be quite a few $'s in the repair job, maybe, as has been suggested, cheaper to visit the wreckers for another complete motor.
If that were the case, fit a new belt at the time the motor goes in (but I dont need to mention that).
furph
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Follow Up By: Mainey (wa) - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 10:22
Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 10:22
furph,
It's my own fault I (personally) changed the belt some time ago, ok more than a few hundred thousand Km ago, and they are supposed to be changed every 100,000 km.
It's a vehicle that's worth nothing as a trade or resale an I've had it since new so it's paid for it's self.
Now if I can't just fit another belt, adjust the pump and valve timing I will probably dump it with a wrecker. It's got an as new gearbox and windscreen lol
Will probably replace it with a small Toyota or Mitsubishi 4x4 ute or similar, as my travelling requirements have now changed due to having a
home as a base and the option of having a boat instead of the Camper Trailer.
Means I will have to reconfigure the solar/battery/fridge system grr.
Mainey...
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Reply By: Mainey (wa) - Saturday, Feb 02, 2008 at 18:53
Saturday, Feb 02, 2008 at 18:53
Well bugga me,
I loosened off the oh cam retainers, replaced the torn-up timing belt and adjusted the timing again, tightened up all the nuts n bolts, filled radiator with water and kicked it into life....
IT W0RKS
went for a drive down the highway for about 10Klm to
check for damage or unusual sounds
Now will have to adjust the valves (one day)
Either you just can't kill these Toyota Diesels or I'm just really 'lucky'
Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Feb 02, 2008 at 19:04
Saturday, Feb 02, 2008 at 19:04
I suspect you're just lucky.
But I'm more interested in why the belt broke? Lack of maintenance? Act of God? Poor quality belt? If the third who made the belt?
It's funny, but I hardly remember a timing chain breaking - in fact I don't think I recall even one but I, personally, know of quite a few belts which have...?
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Follow Up By: Mainey (wa) - Saturday, Feb 02, 2008 at 19:34
Saturday, Feb 02, 2008 at 19:34
It was LACK of maintenance :-(
Motor had done a couple of hundred thousand km on the belt and they are recommended them to be changed at ONE hundred thousand km.
Vehicle has done 600,000 Km and it was only the 3rd belt.
When I get time I must adjust valve clearance, as it's NOT been done since I installed that last broken timing belt.
I imported a Mercedes and the timing CHAIN broke in it early last year, was worth more to fix than it cost me, so gave it away as I was packed ready to leave for a trip north, have to get the priorities right.
Mainey . . .
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