triton start up smoke

Submitted: Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 17:38
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just a quick one for all the dieso mech.the old triton 2.8d is getting hard to start up after sitting for the night. it will turn over and finally fire up,however when it does it has a lot of smoke.could it be that it needs to have the fuel lines bleed? i have just changed a new fuel filter after having a hole in the tank.any help would be great
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Reply By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 17:50

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 17:50
Possible glow plugs are up for renewal not heating up properly prior to turning the key ?? Im not a diesel mechanic or a mechanic for that matter but my old hilux was doing the same thing new glow plugs fixed it, had done 170k when I had them replaced. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Member - Vince B (NSW) - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 17:50

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 17:50
Hi Ryno.
I had a similiar problem with my 2.8 pajero. Check the glow plugs. Perhaps the injectors are leakiing & in need of a service.

Regards.
Vince
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 18:24

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 18:24
Doesn't sound like a fuel filter problem, more like glow plugs.

If low on fuel with an empty fuel filter, wouldn't blow so much smoke from the excess fuel :o)

Not sure what you do when you change the fuel filter, but I top up the fuel filter with diesel from a tin before I screw it back on to save some priming on my 2.8.
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Reply By: Member - grant M (VIC) - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 19:09

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 19:09
This may help
turn the key until your glow plugs have warmed up ( when light goes out ) turn the key back to the off position , wait 10 or so seconds then turn key back to start let plugs warm again then start the vehicle.
Basically warm the glo plugs twice before starting the motor its been working for me for a while. especially on those cold mornings.
Good luck
Grant M
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Follow Up By: donks1 - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 20:48

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 20:48
hi there
above shouldn't be needed......sounds like the injectors need servicing...they are leaking o'nite

donks
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47

Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 06:47
Ryno

I could be wrong, but try tipping hot water along the bar that connects all the injectors ( that should transfer heat to the glow plugs )
Wait about 15-20 seconds, and then see what happens.

Should fire up, no probs.
Another thing is, how long since your injectors have been serviced ?

Look for a hand primer, on or near your fuel pump/filter. Pump it up solid and again see what happens. Now if there is crook "O-ring", in your fuel line ( filter ) then you will have air in the line, albeit only a few bubbles.

Cheers
Bucky



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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (SA) - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 08:15

Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 08:15
Hi ryno
When I had our Pajero with the 2.8 motor, we found that we would have to change the glow plugs every 12 to 18 months for the same reason.

It would be ok in the hotter months of the year, but come about April with the overnight temperatures cool right down, every morning it was like an old chaff cutter, until about 30 seconds after start up.
I even thought that it may have been the injectors, had them replaced, made no difference, new glow plugs in and it was like a new car for the next 12 months or so, them time for replacement glow plugs.

If you do get new glow plugs, replace all 4. The genuine Mitsubishi plugs were about $100 each, so too dear. It used to get the Bosch at under $100 the set of 4.

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Reply By: AdlelaideGeorge - Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 08:43

Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 08:43
I had to have the glow plugs replaced on my '98 Triton at (about) 120k but of course they may have been kaput long before that. Don't be fooled by the glow plug lamp coming and going off as normal-it does that even when no glow plugs are actually glowing! Get them checked properly-it's almost certainly the glow plugs causing the problem. My replacements were expensive-the guy that did the job (injectors serviced at the same time) said that their were no non-genuine ones available. Also told me that the original ones did have a short life and there was a modified one to replace them with-which he fitted.

Happy days

George
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Reply By: Mainey (wa) - Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 09:32

Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 09:32
hell Toyota must use decent 'gloplugs' mine are 600,000 km old and the motor fires up instantly, hot or cold.
(after waiting for the little 'click' - indicating the power is disconnected from heating the glow plugs)

I have only cleaned the 'gloplugs' on the few occasions that I have removed the injectors.
Mainey...
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Reply By: Member - Ray C (VIC) - Saturday, Feb 09, 2008 at 19:48

Saturday, Feb 09, 2008 at 19:48
Hi Ryno, sounds like a glowplug problem. With the smoke issue it depends how much because I notice my MK smokes abit at startup & always has since new.
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