Got rid of Arthritis Shoulder Pain, But..... for how long

Submitted: Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 21:00
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In my retirement I hope to do more vanning, fishing, travelling ie in joying life. A few days ago complained to my daughter about my shoulder pain. 2 years ago I could rub cream on morning, noon and night and within a month it would be gone for up to 3 or 4 months, Last year got the pain back and 6 months later the cream does not work.

Daughter suggested I try this device she purchased at a Wellness Show in Adelaide. I stuck pads, 50mm round discs, 2 mm thick with wires/cable connected to the both sides of my shoulder. Plugged the cable into a box that is the size of a cigarette packet, connected it to a battery pack, and 20 minutes later the pain was gone, that was 3 days ago, still no pain.

This device apparently send pulses of electricity between the pads that improves the blood flow to the painful area. If you turn the current up to high, shoulder muscles twitch. Two painful areas can be treated at any one time.

Question has anyone experienced this type of pain relief? how long does it last for? This unit is portable, runs off a nine volt battery also. Am wondering in 5 years time will I be walking around carrying two units treating arthritis areas so I can enjoy life pain free.

Peter
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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 21:20

Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 21:20
I haven't even gone down that road of looking for alternatives.

My osteo-arthritic troubles started in the mid 90's and got worse. By 2002 I was in a wheelchair, unable to walk even short distances. BY 2005 I had had both knees replaced and was able to leave the wheelchair behind and mobility is good these days. Unfortunately the arthritis is everywhere else except my hips and shoulders. I have it in my thumbs, wrists, elbows, neck and lower spine.

Painkillers work for a few hours and are not worth taking. Not one of the thousands of 'cures' or 'relief' medicines you find in Chemists and Herbal shops seem to work as I have spoked with many people on this. They are just a money making concerns while people like us grab at any new 'cure'. I have only tried a few however and they have all been a waste of time.

Electrical impulses, magnets, copper bracelts and so on may work for some for a short time.

I try to put mind over matter, stay busy, and even do some hard physical work in small doses. If the pain gets too bad I go and lie down.

Unfortunantely there is no miracle cure and I am just going to have to put up with it for as much time as I have left on this mortal coil.


Maybe you should consult an orthopaedic surgeon with the view to a shoulder operation. A mate of mine has had his done and he seems to be a lot better off now.


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Reply By: Gerhardp1 - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 21:37

Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 21:37
I have one of those devices, purchased specifically to fix right arm which I had managed to stuff completely - Carpal Tunnel, Golfer's Elbow and Tennis elbow all at once.

Numerous trips to Osteo saw a small improvement, but finally out of desperation bought this device at the Caravan & Camping show.

Used as directed, and combined with ice packs after electric stimulation (Osteo's suggestion) the arm is now fully functional. The arthritis in the fingers is getting worse, though, I can't use the device for them :)

Many years ago I had a "knotted" muscle in my shoulder which was so painful I went to see my GP - he put one of the little devices on and adjusted it over 45 minutes, as much "hammering" as I could stand. Knot gone, shoulder still painful but easing even as I left the surgery.

I think the devices are very useful (I claimed mine back on health insurance too) . In Willem's case, there may be too many parts affected to be of much use, as in my fingers.
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Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 21:37

Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 21:37
Very common to use that technique in physiotherapy after major orthopaedic surgery. It does a few things:

1. Strengthens the muscles in the general area around the surgical wound.
2. Decreases the amount of swelling in the area (oedema)
3. Has "TENS" (Trans Epidermal Nerve Stimulation) like properties on the nerves in the area, effectively making the brain "forget" about the pain signals it may be getting from the surgical area.

It does work and it is not hocus-pocus.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 22:05

Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 22:05
The Old Rooster uses the TENS machine (sounds like what you are describing) from time to time on his back. Some relief but not overly effective - certainly not lasting for days. He has been advised by the Physio to use 4 pads and highest level. Different things work for different people.

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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 23:37

Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 23:37
Hi Motherhen, where did you get your machine from? I am having trouble with one of my shoulders and was wondering if maybe this could be of use. I have tried magnets and anything else that hubby can lay his hands on thinking it may help. I have had problems with my back, neck, feet, knees, elbows & hands over the years which I think may have stemmed from having curviture of the spine plus having broken my back at some stage. We have spent a small fortune on chiros & physios over the past 25 years which I believe has kept me upright and walking.

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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 23:53

Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 23:53
Hi Dunworkin

We got it through the Physiotherapist, so that way the Rooster got the one most suited to his needs. He has one to lend to patients, so the rooster used that for a while before deciding to buy. There are other avenues - on line shops, and even some pharmacists may stock them.

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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 00:02

Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 00:02
Thanks Motherhen, will do a bit of research on them and see what I come up with.

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Reply By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 22:13

Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 22:13
Peter, I suffer from arthritis to many of my joints, much like willem describes. Early in 2007 I was overtaken by arthritis pain in my shoulder, after about 12 months progressive onset. In the end could not reach around to pull the back of my shorts up, or put my arm straight up in the air, or tuck my hand up ito my armpit, or much worse, get any sleep at night. After much cortisone and other ant-iinflamatories, was sent to an orthopeadic surgeon, who diagnosed frozen shoulder, and performed a manipulation under anesthatic in hospital. After almost 12 months rehab and much physio I am now relatively pain free in that shoulder, but not arthritis free . Frozen shoulder, and bursitis are very painful, and very common for arthritis sufferers, and easily confused with torn rotor cuff or other shoulder and elbow damage. You need to get a specialists advice for long term relief, and not get temporary relief, which I also tried. You need to fix the problem, not mask it.
Just one of the unwanted bonuses of mature ageing I suppose, and lots of physical work/activity in our younger years, when we thought we were invincible.
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 22:25

Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 22:25
Also meant to say, that now when on a trip, I stop more often, and have a bit of a stretch and walk arount the rig, to help arthritis pains in the hips and knees and lower back. Stop every hour and have a stretch for a few minutes. The days of driving for 6 or 8 or 10 hours are gone at our age. Who wants to stop for the night feeling and looking like a half shut pocket knife, and unable to get a good nights rest. Take it easy all you grey nomads out there.
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Follow Up By: garryk - Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 17:40

Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 17:40
G'day
I also developed the same symptoms as Fred G
GP diagnosed it as shoulder tendonitis also had a ultrasound
This was confirmed by a second GP
Tried antinflammitories and was given a cortisone shot by GP very little change
Then was sent to a physio who said I also had a frozen shoulder and in part used a similar machine on me
Regular exercises and physio visits made a bit of improvement
Finally was sent to get a " Ultrasound guided cortisone shot "
This gave the most improvement
Still only about 85% got the movement mostly back but still some pain when reaching to limits of shoulder movement range
Maybe one of those machines will give me some further improvement
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 18:36

Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 18:36
Gary, the ultra sound guided cortisone shot I got was my second last treatment prior to manipulatuion, by the ortho-surgeon. Only lasted a week or so, and back to where I was. Now much better after the scar tissue was released. You need to talk to your physio about further treatment, because without manipulation, or at worst, an operation, the scar tissue freezing the shoulder will not release, and progressively get worse. I was also told that once you have been diagnosed with frozen shoulder in one side, the chances are 65% that you will have it in the other side within 5 years, and need to react to similar symptoms quickly.
No doubt a TENS machine will give you temp. relief, but you need to get the problem fixed for long term relief. It's not a pleasant procedure, but I am so glad I had it done.
My GP looks after a national RL team from Newcastle, and sees more shoulders than most, and referred me to a wonderful ortho-surgeon.
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Reply By: stevie1947 - Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 23:03

Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 23:03
I have a "Tens" machine also, which I use on my left shoulder muscles. I find that it is very useful in relieving the pain for at least a few days and then I repeat the application as necessary.
I luv it.
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Reply By: Twinkles - Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 00:33

Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 00:33
I was loaned a TENS machine by my physio while my leg was healing after smashing the tibia plateau. It did help. I take gloucosamine every day. It makes a big difference.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 08:22

Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 08:22
Peter

Can be days, weeks or months, and the pain is usually associated with life-style, or just plain wearing out. They can be used to release "endorphins", the body's own pain management " feel good " chemical.

The unit you are talking about sounds like a "Sports Med"., Jim Lamers, Physiotherapist, from Essendon way in Melbourne, got it up and running.
I have gone thru 6 or 8 of them, as an Aussie Rules Football Trainer for approx 25 years, I can vouch for them.




Crank them right up or change the pulsing to " cloak " all pain ,,

I use it all the time for knee pain

Brilliant !

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Bucky

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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 08:27

Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 08:27
Found it ,,

http://www.biostimtherapy.com/

Try this site ,,,,!

Cheers all

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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 08:34

Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 08:34
This is their associated Company,.

http://www.ezistim.com/store/cart.php

The link in the previous post willl get you there , but this is direct

Another possibility is that you can ring Jim himself, and he or another Physio shouls be able tol guide you thru everything,,,,

Cheers
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 21:29

Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 21:29
GEE!!! I have just decided that i dont wat to get any older!!!!! Michael.
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Follow Up By: Member - Pedro the One (QLD) - Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 03:02

Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 03:02
Hi Michael ...........

Just for the record ............. the only other option is death !!!

Like some-one says in their profile ... old age ain't no place for cissies !!
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 20:00

Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 20:00
I think it was Woody Allen who said "I'm not afraid of dying, i just dont want to be around when it happens"!!! Michael
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Reply By: Newbiesb - Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 07:36

Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 07:36
Perhaps some of your should try a decent massage and a stretching routine. A good massage therapist keeps you going and wuill giv you stretches to manage muscle tightness in affected areas - then you can manage it yourself.
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Reply By: PeterInSa - Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 20:58

Monday, Jan 21, 2008 at 20:58
My understanding is that Arthritis is more active in people who have an acidic rather than alkaline blood stream. if this is correct my arthritis is probably self inflicted since up to 2 years ago I took 1000mgm of Vitamin C daily hoping that it would protect me from getting the big C.

I did this for over 20 years. So I may not get the big C, but I certainly have the big A.

Thanks for your comments.

Peter
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