100 Series 105 Series Whats the difference?

Submitted: Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 17:42
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I see on this site blokes and blokettes talking about 100 and 105 Series Toyotas. Is there a difference or do 105 series have a surfboard on the roof rack? Please enlighten me a poor but happy nissan owner. [Not a 3ltr but a mighty 4500 lpg/ petrol. 300000klms.]
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:20

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:20
Just......5

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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:25

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:25
Steve,

Have a look at this site

100/105 Series


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Reply By: nowimnumberone - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:25

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:25
105 is 4.5 petrol
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:52

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:52
nope
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 21:01

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 21:01
105 are live front axle, both petrol and diesel
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Reply By: Kev & Darkie - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:27

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:27
Check this post on the LCOOL site as well.

difference between 100/105 series Landcruiser


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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:45

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:45
Kev,

Looks like you have to log in to get into that site.

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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 20:08

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 20:08
Wayne,

I didn't have a problem but then again I am registered LOL

It has much the same info as to what you posted above.

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Reply By: Andrew(WA) - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:49

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 18:49
The following is cut and paste from the Lcool forum...


The 100 series vs. 105 series

When first released in Australia in March 1998, the new 100 series Landcruiser wagons all looked very similar, apart from the obvious things like wheels, body moulds and the fancy chrome bits between model grades. But as time progressed we began to learn that there are in fact 2 very different chassis setups underpinning these bodies.

In this day and age of monocoque vehicle design, it was good to see the Cruiser did in fact retain its traditional rugged truck like separate chassis design.



The 105 series chassis is essentially a carry over from the previous 80 series. Apart from some improvements to rigidity through extra cross members, better frontal impact absorption and different outriggers to support the new body, it continues to offer us live axles front and rear.

Live axle or Rigid Front Suspension (RFS) as Toyota refer to it uses the familiar 3 link setup with forged lower arms, panhard rod, coil springs and recirculating ball steering box. It was standard fitment on STD, RV and GXL models at release. Front and rear differential locks were offered as factory options.





The 100 series chassis is an all new design, utilising a different chassis which is some 40mm wider at the rear, narrowing down at the front to incorporate the fixed front differential, torsion bars, heavy cross member for the rear torsion bar mounts and of course the double wishbone front suspension with rack and pinion steering. Independent Front Suspension (IFS) offers according to Toyota information “a high level of steering ability and ride comfort, whilst maintaining excellent off road drivability and durability”. A front diff lock was never offered as a factory option with IFS.

The IFS was only available on the GXV model (and Lexus LX470) initially at release, but progressed to the GXL and GXV turbo diesel models when the V8 GXV was dropped in Oct. 2000. Further model progressions in Oct. 2002 saw it fitted to all models except the STD and GXL diesel wagons, when the 4.5L petrol engine was dropped.

To date there have been numerous reports of failures of the IFS lower wishbones, where the arm cracks adjacent to the point where the torsion bar bolts to it, sometimes to the point that the vehicle will sit on it’s bumpstop. This appears only to be evident on the turbo diesel models where the extra weight of the inline 6 cylinder and the different weight distribution of the longer engine cause the arm to be more highly stressed, particularly if the vehicle has additional accessories and has been used offroad. Some companies like ARB and Pedders are making strengthening kits to help alleviate the problem.





The rear suspensions of both the 100 and 105 series are the familiar 5 link design, utilising upper and lower control arms, panhard rod, coil springs and shock absorbers although the geometry is quite different. The 105 series also retains the traditional Cruiser full floating rear axle shafts whereas the 100 series utilises the semi-floating rear axle design.

The 2 chassis variants are distinguished by their model code which is easily found on the ID plate under the bonnet. Any model code with the suffix “100” (eg. UZJ100, HDJ100) is of IFS design, and “105” (eg. HZJ105, FZJ105) is of RFS design. However an easy way of telling at a glance is by the wheel rim design - deep dish zero offset for RFS and flat appearing 40mm offset for the IFS.

Because of the differences in the chassis designs, the following is an example of common 4x4 accessories that are not compatible between 100 and 105 series:

• Bull bars
• Rear bar / towbar / wheel carrier
• Side steps
• Scrub rails
• Long range tanks
• Wheels / rims
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Reply By: Steve Ellis - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 19:59

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 19:59
Thank you Andrew for that very extensive and accurate explanation. It is great that forumites can come up with the answers to almost any question. Andrew has gone to a lot of trouble to post this answer and we thank him again.
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 20:16

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 20:16
Steve,

If you actually look at the thread on LCOOL there is pics included as well. Andrew copy and pasted the thread by Greg, (the one I had linked to) less the pics.
It may have been to hard to register to yet another forum maybe??

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Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 20:38

Monday, Jan 28, 2008 at 20:38
The short answer is the 100 has independent front suspension, the 105 has a full "live" axle
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Jan 29, 2008 at 01:10

Tuesday, Jan 29, 2008 at 01:10
the short answer leaves out the engine/trans options!
V8 petrol from 1998 to 2000 (100)
6 petrol 2000 to 2002
V8 petrol 2002 to present (100 only)
1HZ (105 only)
1HD-FTE (100 only)
105 manual only?
4 speed auto 1998 to sept 2002
5 speed auto 2002 to 2007

feel free to correct this info!
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 22:08

Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 22:08
I thought the 4.5 petrols continued straight after the 80 series, Maybe earlier GXL 105 where auto's(4.5 petrol)
No V8 in live axle- you said (yep)
No factory T/D in live axle (that I'm aware about)
Your info seems spot on (no argument from me) but THE single most defining difference between to two is the live axle/IFS.
After around 2002 the only spec 105 you could get was at the entry level of the cruiser range and only comes with 1HZ, manual, vinyl everything, wind up windows, radio tape player (no cd), no central locking, not even in '05
If you wanted Bling, or a V8, or factory T/D, you had to have IFS.
I'm sure Steve has he's answer now but his original question was short and simple, so I gave an equivalent answer

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