Progress Report..3way rejuvenation.

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 17, 2008 at 13:35
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A little while back I received the usual good advice on this forum on how I might improve the performance of my 27 year old 3way.
Like its owner , things had depreciated a bit. Anyway, after removing the back panel & carefully removing heaps of dust/fluff
etc, R & R the elec connections, dismantle,clean etc all gas fittings,
I can report significant improvement, on 240v anyway. Fridge now
holds 1..2 deg c on max setting, empty, as opposed to 4/5 deg
before clean up. I have obtained an 8cm 12v computer fan
which fits perfectly on top of the heat vent , easily attached with
cable ties. Will report again when tested....oldbaz.
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 21:21

Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 21:21
Good on you Baz, good to see you have a go and repaired the fridge..

Cheers

Richard
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:59

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:59
Hey Richard, thanks for the response. I wasnt exactly overwhelmed with interest. I suppose everyone has a Waeco or Engel by now. I intend to run the Finch off an inverter & do away
with voltage drop problems. Waiting for it to arrive. Will test it &
fan & report back. Cheers...oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 16:28

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 16:28
Baz

I would not classify 300 odd views of this thread as lack of interest. I think you just did not leave an opening for all the half wits to put in their comments they think are "funny."

Are you intending to run your Finch off the inverter just when you are travelling or after you stop as well? You won't get much battery life after your alternator ceases charging.

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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 18:23

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 18:23
Peter, You are right re inverter & travelling. Will revert to gas
when stopped. Main reason for trying to improve performance is
the versatility of 3 way. The 12/240 option seems to require
a lot of extra power sources, eg dual battery, solar, gennies etc,
adds up to a lot of bucks. If all this works I will then look at the
waeco 240v only portable fridge. 40 L & capable of being a freezer. Looks good to me. Would run as a freezer off inverter
while travelling. Would not expect much thawing overnight if kept
closed & could back up with Battery Booster pack if neccessary.
Anyway it is all interesting, will keep tinkering.
cheers...oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 23:24

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 23:24
Baz

If the Finch is working well then you will not need to get a Waeco fridge. If you are camping for any length of time a gas fridge will workwell enough and you will not have to keep checking and charging batteries. You can burn a lot of gas for the cost of a new fridge and then you will need fridge batteries and solar cells on top of that.

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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:53

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:53
" have obtained an 8cm 12v computer fan
which fits perfectly on top of the heat vent , easily attached with
cable ties."

If you mean directly above the "chimney" on a portable 3-way, then it won't last there and would be a fire hazard.

The fan should blow air over the condensor fins.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 15:47

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 15:47
Hi Mike, I had planned to place the fan midway along the top
air vent. It will actually suck air from within the condenser area.
Do you think this will be OK ?......oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 16:44

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 16:44
I think there are other ways getting better airflow over the fans from the same size fan.

I think mounting it at the back to blow air onto the fins would be better.

Best would be to take the back off and put in some ducting to force ALL air from the fan to flow over the fins.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 18:30

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 18:30
Mike, while I dont dispute your ideas, I thought the idea of the fan was to remove the heat . The finned condenser does not
seem to get any warmer than the coils below. In fact all that pipework is barely warm when operating. There is plenty of heat
issuing from the chimney tube ,as you rightly pointed out. Anyway,
I will experiment with the location & use the therometer to guage
results. Thanks for the input...oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 18:41

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 18:41
"I thought the idea of the fan was to remove the heat "

- that's it exactly. The cooler you keep the Condenser, the cooler the fridge can be. It doesn't matter if you suck out hot air or blow in cool air.
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:05

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:05
Good on yer Oldbas - there's a lot of life left in the Finches yet - mine is still going strong.

As Mike says; ensure the fan is above (or below) the finned heat exchanger which runs most of the length of the fridge near the top.

If you bring the fan wires out to a small socket on the backplate you can run the fan from a 12V gelcell (assuming the fan is a 12V unit) on very hot days when the fridge is running on gas.

Mike Harding
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