Truckies being booked for using UHF radio??

Submitted: Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 20:23
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I've heard a rumour that truckies are being booked for using their UHF radios while driving...apparently in northern NSW.
Has anyone heard anything similar?
Gary.
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Reply By: blue one - Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 21:25

Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 21:25
Gary,
Use mine every day for the past 12 years in NSW, not a problem & nor is there one with the blokes I talk to.

Cheers
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Reply By: desert - Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 21:26

Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 21:26
I wonder if there is a law against that?
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Follow Up By: Dunco (NSW) - Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 22:29

Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 22:29
No law about UHF, only about handheld mobile phones.

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Reply By: blue one - Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 21:35

Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 21:35
Well the cops would be in trouble.

SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH

LOL
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Follow Up By: DIO - Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:40

Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:40
They are exempted in such matters.
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Follow Up By: Member - Luke (SA) - Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 22:41

Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 22:41
Toucheyyyyyyyyy
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Reply By: Member - Longtooth (SA) - Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 21:50

Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 21:50
This question was asked on the ABC recently when there is a regular guest - Sgt Paul Friend - and his reply was that a CB is a driver aid an under the national road rules can be used without fear of retribution by anyone.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 21:56

Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 21:56
Don't put ideas in the mongrel Pollies heads, NSW the revenue state,

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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 22:31

Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 22:31
I heard recently that it is totally legal to use a hand operated mike in the corrupt state, NSW.. WE could put that on our number plates... MMM the corrupt state... I like it... Michael
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Reply By: Footloose - Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 22:59

Friday, Feb 22, 2008 at 22:59
I don't believe that NSW is more corrupt than any other state.
They just have a bigger carpet to sweep the rubbish under!
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Follow Up By: Rock Ape - Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 07:20

Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 07:20
Well said
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Reply By: Mainey (wa) - Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 08:14

Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 08:14
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I wonder why it's illegal to use a mobile phone and not a CB ??

Because both require the same amount of concentration, are about the same size and require a hand to be taken off the steering wheel to hold it.

Other than the different method of transmission, both are used in the exact same way to talk to some one else, who is probably also driving too.

Is the Taxi driver and the Courier permitted to use a 'radio device' or use the computer 'touch screen' while driving ??

The answer is probably simply stated as "revenue raising" :-((

Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:21

Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:21
>I wonder why it's illegal to use a mobile phone and not a CB ??

The reason given is that a radio is a simplex device whereas a mobile phone is a duplex device ie. you cannot have an interactive conversation on a radio but you can on a mobile and it is, supposedly, this issue which causes concentration lapse. However that doesn't explain why it's quite legal to use a "hands free" phone? Personally I think the whole mobile phone and driving thing is rather overdone - but like much of Oz traffic law it's an easy scapegoat for government to persecute drivers with and pretend they are doing something and many people seem to like the warm fuzzy feeling such regulation brings them.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Member - Coyote (QLD) - Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:43

Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:43
If it was about the number of hands you have on the steering wheel then you could be booked for smoking, waving or giving the one fingered salute.. it is NOT about hands on wheel... it's about attention to the road. thats why you can also get fined for eating or drinking while driving.. you need to take your attention away from the road.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 22:33

Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 22:33
Mythbusters did what looked to be a fairly good test on using a mobile phone while driving and found it most conclusivly deteriates driving skill
of course there would be many individual factors as well as many other things are dtremental to driving
eg smokers buts flying back into the car and kids fighting in the back seat to name a few
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Reply By: Skippy In The GU - Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 08:30

Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 08:30
All Police Officers in Australia can use a mobile phone while driving a police car.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:10

Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:10
Hate to tell you but that is an urban myth ,, the phone call MUST be work related , phoning the missus to find out whats for dinner can still get mr plod into trouble with his superiors.
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Reply By: DIO - Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:02

Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:02
The driver of a vehicle must have total control of vehicle at all times. To do otherwise may cause driver to be charged with Driving without Due Care and/or Attention.

The following, whilst a bit lengthy, is from Australian Road Rules Link and may help to clarify position in relation to specific concerns as raised in this thread. In particular refer to Section 300 (2):

297 Driver to have proper control of a vehicle etc

(1) A driver must not drive a vehicle unless the driver has proper
control of the vehicle.


299 Television receivers and visual display units in motor
vehicles
(1) A driver must not drive a motor vehicle that has a television
receiver or visual display unit in or on the vehicle operating
while the vehicle is moving, or is stationary but not parked, if
any part of the image on the screen:
(a) is visible to the driver from the normal driving position; or
(b) is likely to distract another driver.
Offence provision.
Note Motor vehicle and park are defined in the dictionary, and vehicle is
defined in rule 15.
(2) This rule does not apply to the driver if:
(a) the driver is driving a bus and the visual display unit is, or
displays, a destination sign or other bus sign; or
(b) the visual display unit is, or is part of, a driver’s aid; or
(c) the driver or vehicle is exempt from this rule under
another law of this jurisdiction.
Examples of driver’s aids
1 Closed-circuit television security cameras.
2 Dispatch systems.
3 Navigational or intelligent highway and vehicle system equipment.
4 Rearview screens.
5 Ticket-issuing machines.
6 Vehicle monitoring devices.
Note Bus is defined in the dictionary.


300 Use of hand-held mobile phones
(1) The driver of a vehicle (except an emergency vehicle or police
vehicle) must not use a hand-held mobile phone while the
vehicle is moving, or is stationary but not parked, unless the
driver is exempt from this rule under another law of this
jurisdiction.
Offence provision.
Note Emergency vehicle, park and police vehicle are defined in the
dictionary.
(2) In this rule:
mobile phone does not include a CB radio or any other
two-way radio.

Having ingested all of the above, remember that a driver can be charged with Driving without Dure Care and/or Attention at almost any time (as it is not a difficult charge to prove) and it could include the use of a CB Radio - if manner of driving was attributed thus.
If the claim that a or any driver was charged with using CB Radio in NSW (is correct) it might well have been because of manner of driving attributed to using said radio etc. Thus the offence would not have been for using the CB Radio - it was possibly for manner of driving resulting from same.
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Follow Up By: Ralph2 - Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 16:56

Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 16:56
I think we would all agree that dialling a ph # or texing while moving takes more effort and lose of attention from the road then using a CB radio hand piece.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 20:33

Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 20:33
"I think we would all agree that dialling a ph # or texing while moving takes more effort and lose of attention from the road then using a CB radio hand piece. "

- ????? Are you suggesting that logic comes into deciding what driving behaviour will attract a fine ?
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Reply By: obee - Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 19:08

Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 19:08
the problem with using a mike is all the childish profane meaningless drivel.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 22:51

Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 22:51
Yep, all "mikes" are like that LOL

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Reply By: peteC - Wednesday, Feb 27, 2008 at 17:14

Wednesday, Feb 27, 2008 at 17:14
The original story goes, many years ago when they decided to ban using mobile phones they also tried to do the same with 2ways because they were the same porblem, but it was then asked what will the police do when they need to use their 2way radios. Hence phones were banned but radios still allowed.
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