convex mirrors

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 17:14
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One of the most irksome features of my 96 patrol is that it has flat mirrors on both passenger and drivers side, which means no matter how well I adjust them I still have big blind spots on either side. I notice that the Australian Design Rules have been brought into line with the rest of the world and now allow convex mirrors on both driver and passenger side. The question is, where can I get my mirrors changed, or buy some acrylic convex mirrors to cut to size and stick over the top of the flat ones?
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 17:34

Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 17:34
Gees I wish I could swap them for my crappy , useless , mongrel , convex ones .

I am the opposite to you - I think the convex ones are bloody dangerous . You cannot judge distances with them .

Willie
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Follow Up By: SteveL - Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 19:27

Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 19:27
Some Iveco trucks come standard with convex mirrors on the passenger side ,but they are usually replaced by the owners who find it impossible to back the vehicle,especially in tight places.
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Reply By: Featherfoot - Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 17:48

Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 17:48
Convex mirrors, I hate them. I can see why a lot of accidents occur because drivers think the car behind the is further than what it realy is. With flat mirrors at least you can reverse boats, vans or whatever with some confidence that the distance between the the wall or gate or such and the trailer your reversing is pretty realistic.
I'd change mine tomorrow if I could. 2006 L/cruiser.

Cheers

Gary
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Follow Up By: Featherfoot - Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 17:52

Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 17:52
I can see why a lot of accidents occur because drivers think the car behind the is further than what it realy is and change lanes. That's what I meant to say.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 21:37

Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 21:37
I have an '05 STD wagon cruiser (both convex) and never felt comfortable with 'em, coming home from dinner on a multi laned road with medium strip I had to change into the "fast" lane, looked in the mirror and was aware that a car was "there" proceeded to change, upon a second look after I put the blinker on I found it to be a motorbike with two headlights right at the rear driver side door, must of scared the s... out of the poor bike rider, certainly scared it pout of me, so the next day I went down to the Toyota dealer and ask if I could get flat mirrors to suit, sorry mate ,we can only get what's applicable to that vehicle.
On the way back to where I was parked, I walked thru the used car lot and found what I wanted, back into the spare parts counter and asked a drivers door mirror glass for a '04 UZJ 100, He looked at me and said, didn't you just say you had an '05. . . Oh I see, Got them to fit during it's next service, cost around the $70 mark, convex was over $100.
I'm happy to have a convex on passenger side, but I MUST have real vision on Drivers side.
Shane
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 18:21

Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 18:21
Hi
You can get the little 70mm dia convex bubble type mirrors, but I think they are too small for your purpose. If the driver and passenger glass is the same shape you may be able to get one from a wrecker?

I would gladly swap my Passenger convex for a flat if we had the same vehicle, and I have driven a newer car with a convex on the drivers side as well and I hate them. I would like objects in the mirror to be the distance away that they seem. I reverse a boat a fair bit (would like it to be more) and the convex mirrors are a PITA. If you need blind spot mirrors, maybe some of the ones like on the imported surf (has a second mirror out near the headlight) may be a good option, or hopefully there will be someone like myself with a similar car to yours you may be able to swap.

I prefer a turn of the head for the blindspot, and not compensating or misjudging due to the distorted view from the convex ones.....

Cheers Andrew

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Reply By: long haired nomad - Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 19:19

Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 19:19
Supercheap autos have 3" round convex mirrors that stick on to your existing mirrors. Ive had them on my hilux for years.
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Reply By: obee - Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 20:09

Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 20:09
i have always had convex on the left and I adjust the righty so it favours the sight of that car that sits in what would be the blind spot. Like the bloke in the last post, I just tilt my head to see the side of my car if I have to.

I might be wrong but I think the convex mirrors today are not as pronounced as they used to be. They seem to give a wide enough angle without compromising the illusion of distance too much.

Owen
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 21:55

Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 21:55
You can buy larger convex mirror stick ons. We use them on bus mirrors and wouldn't be without them on both sides.
The are about 100mm wide and are circular with the top and bottom cut off.

Imagine a clock face with a line across from 10 -2 and 8-4 and those pieces removed. Bought one for about $5 at TJM at Coopers Plains but most truck places would sell them.

That gives you the best of both worlds.

Would not have full convex ones on the drivers side EVER.

Okay on the left but still iffy when your vehicle is 12 meters long,
its pretty hard to judge how far off your tail the car is that's following.

Here in Brisbane it can be measured in centimeters at times as well.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 16:42

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 16:42
These ones (the ones that are cut-off top and bottom) are the type that I want to get too......but haven't seen any around.

I would try to mount them on top of the standard mirror arrangement; not actually ON the original mirror. This way I'll still have the original mirror, but the convex one in addition.

It'd be like my mate's Ford Transit Van, great mirrors on that bloody thing!!!

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 21:07

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 21:07
I will try and find the one I have and give you a make and part no.

I cant find anything at the moment as I tidied the garage to paint the floor and now dont know where anything is LOL
I have seen those mounted on top of the mirrors. If you buy a Mercedes bus for over $400,000 you get them free
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Reply By: Dave B (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 21:57

Thursday, Mar 06, 2008 at 21:57
I would think if you went to a glass merchant and asked him to cut a mirror for you, it would be the cheapest way out of it.
Then get some liquid nails or something like that and glue the new glass over the old one.

Many years ago I did this to replace a mirror that had just dropped out of the mounting.
Far cheaper than going to the spare parts counter.

Dave
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Follow Up By: dazza0503 - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 16:12

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 16:12
I pried the convex one out of my 05 hilux and got one cut at local glass shop and siliconed it back in place. I don't think it is legal though.

Dazza
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Reply By: Member No 1- Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 07:36

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 07:36
get glazier to cut new mirros and fit with silicone...but was that acid free silicone or what...the glaizer will tell which silicone
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Reply By: Paul & Debbie - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 14:01

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 14:01
Why not fit concave?
Makes your car go faster.

;-)

Paul

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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Mar 09, 2008 at 12:42

Sunday, Mar 09, 2008 at 12:42
Here u r
CONVEX BLIND SPOT MIRROR

Haigh Brand size 140 x 100mm
Part no BSM100
Made in Taiwan for Haigh Australia Pty ltd

Barcode no 9 311902 133439
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:48

Tuesday, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:48
G'day Graham

Yeh, thanks for that info mate....Google sorted me out and I was able to order and pay for a pair of these from a place in Norword (Derek). They are only $5.90 each. Too easy.

Now all I've gotta do is try to work out how to mount them above the existing standard mirrors. I don't mind drilling the occasional hole in anything, so I'm thinking that a lump of steel bar, screwed to the front of the plastic mirror housing, that extends up above the mirror by about 100mm would be a good starting point. Will wait and see once I receive them and will post a couple of picc's here once the job is done.

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:56

Tuesday, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:56
Goodo the one I have has a plastic back on it with two sticky pads. The ones on the buses are the same but have a metal back on them
Will ask the boss where he got them from when I go back to work after lunch
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Reply By: Ti Trol - Tuesday, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:36

Tuesday, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:36
Guys thanks for all the posts.

I drove the office Prado the other day and was surprised to see that it had a quite convex mirror on the passenger side, and a less convex mirror on the drivers side. Then there is the flat interior rear view mirror. Sounds confusing to have 3 different magnification mirrors, but it provided great visisbility.

I will look into Haig.

Cheers
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