Power question
Submitted: Tuesday, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:01
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Member - Noldi (WA)
Hi All,
I have enough electrical knowledge to get myself into trouble so I thought I would
check with the experts on this
forum.
Does anyone have a circuit diagram on how to wire up house batteries to 3 charging sources:
i. vehicle alternator
ii. solar panels
iii. output from a battery charger
While the wiring up seems streight forward, is there any likelihood of damage to one charging device if another is feeding the batteries at the same time?
Do they need to be isolated from each other
E.G. if the alternator is running and feeding the batteries, could this damage the voltage regulator from the solar panels or the battery charger (and all the other combinations)
Rgds
Ian
Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Mar 11, 2008 at 15:45
Tuesday, Mar 11, 2008 at 15:45
All charging sources have to work when a voltage is apllied to their output i.e a battery.
The one exception would be a Shunt-type solar regulator - it will divert current into a load when the voltage gets too high.
You can leave the car connection on permanently.
You can leave the solar regulator connected permanently (provided its not the shunt type).
The Mains Charger I would only connect to the battery when plugged in to 240 volt. Some chargers could draw a small current from the battery if they are not connected to 240 volts.
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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 11, 2008 at 21:04
Tuesday, Mar 11, 2008 at 21:04
Hi Mike R
Thanks for that, my question sounds pretty stupid now that you mention it I put it down to old age
Rgds
Ian
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:08
Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:08
"The Mains Charger I would only connect to the battery when plugged in to 240 volt. Some chargers could draw a small current from the battery if they are not connected to 240 volts."
All caravan manufacturers install the battery chargers connected directly to the battery, not through an isolation switch. I am yet to here of anyone having problems with flat batteries due to any charger being left connected to the battery - be it a mains charger, 12V battery booster or solar regulator.
PeterD
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:00
Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:00
Ian
If your solar charging is effective I would suggest you do not attempt to connect your vehicle alternator to your house battery.
With your vehicle and house systems interconnected, the vehicles alternator will be the system voltage controller. With your motor at working temperature, the alternator output will be less than 14V. However, without the systems interconnected the solar regulator will charge your battery with a voltage in excess of 14V. The higher the voltage across your battery, the higher the battery charging current will be.
The reason for reduced charging with the systems interconnected. - The electrical load on the vehicle system will be greater than the solar system can supply. When the voltage of the solar system is potentially higher than the vehicle (ie will be higher if the two systems are separated) - current will flow towards the vehicle's electrical system. This current flow to the vehicle's system will attempt to raise the system voltage of the whole system - the result of this is the alternator regulator will cut back the the alternator's output to compensate and bring the voltage back to its designed voltage. Thus the solar panel will be contributing to the current requirements of your vehicle.
There is no sense in using your solar system to supplement the vehicles alternator.
PeterD
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 23:43
Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 23:43
Hi
The key point is IF YOUR
SOLAR POWER IS SUFFICIENT to run your fridg[especialy 3way 12v] etc & fullly charge aux bats[especially if low ]while driving ,if it not then the problem of feeding engine elects will not or rarely occur, & you may need the alternator to supplement solar.
You need to look at this carefully to decide which is best for you.
You could fit a votmeter & a paralelling relay with switch in coil circuit to manually switch of relay when you see voltmeter drop back or stay around 13.8 v
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