MovingMap/ExploreOz/Ubuntu/LapTop ... HELP ??

Thanks John ....

Probably wasn't as clear as I thought I was .... I already have a Windows XP disc, just not able to get it loaded to the LapTop.

My main objective is to get rid of Ubuntu and replace it with XP, but I keep getting the afore-mentioned dialogue box.

However, I'm confident the solution is here, somewhere ... !!

You can get Ozi running under Linux. This link shows you how.

Because I use a bluetooth GPS, it is going to take some time to get 'follow me' to work.

BRB

Thanks John S .....

That's the way I want to go.

Had a look at WINE but was not to my taste, [sorry 'bout that!].

But would be really interested in how you go with it.

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Aye, there's the rub ! How does one "do that? "

John, last was an oops! "

Had already checked that link, hence my ... [Had a look at WINE but was not to my taste, [sorry 'bout that!].


and above F/Up should have read thusly :

[then maybe format the laptop and install WinXP.]

Aye, there's the rub ! How does one "do that? "

That's me .... how does one format and install XP ?

If you have a WinXP cd, boot from it and follow the prompts. When it gets to the hard disk partitions, delete all of then and tell it to setup WinXP on the single partition left, and select quick format NTFS. Keep following the prompts. Done

Well almost done, if you have never installed WinXP then its scary, but just use the defaults and you will get there.

Right ....

tried that ......
pressed F2 when prompted, up comes a screen[ PhoenixBIOS Setup Utility] requesting PASSWORD.

My Password wont open it ..... screen is in front of me now !

Great :( bios passwords - god do I hate them.

Will the laptop boot from the WinXP or does it boot straight into Ubuntu ?

If it boots straight into Ubuntu, some systems allow you to press F12 (instead of F2) to enter a boot menu, from there you select the CD-ROM

Nope, wont boot from XP .... goes straight to Ubuntu.

F2 brings up the BIOS P/W box ... and F12 goes straight to Ubuntu again.

Any further suggestions ..... I am a patient type, just get frustrated easily !!

Will go looking for a computor forum if no luck here.

Many thanks for your assistance.

I guess all I'm really after now is how to get Ubuntu off my LapTop !

Sigh ..... and it all seemed do easy yesterday !!!

You should be able to boot from the XP CD in your CD drive, and ignore the boot sector on your hard disk.

Make sure you have a copy of XP supplied with your system.
If not, other copies may not have the drivers you need.
But the basic drivers that come with XP will get you up and running, but you may need to find the correct drivers for sound/NIC card etc.

Back up any data you want to keep onto CD , otherwise ignore this step. Because what follows is going to wipe the hard disk.

1. set the boot sequence in BIOS.
use del or as the post message displays to get bios.
there should be a setting for boot sequence.
put the CD before the hard disk.

2. F8
Trying pressing F8 as it boots. You should get a menu that prompts you with a list of boot devices, then boot off the CD.

After 1 or 2.
The system should load a small copy of XP into memory to work.
Then it will prompt you to load XP onto the hard disk or repair it.
Select load new copy of XP.
It will then offer to reformat the hard disk.
Reformat the disk. NTFS is best. (This wipes Ubuntu and everything else, no going back after this.)
Then XP should load.
Go through the setup proceedure as prompted.
This could take from 30 mins to 1 to 2 hours.
It should find the right drivers as needed.
Option - If you can log onto Microsoft and load the updates, it is worthwhile. (another few hours depending on your connection speed.)
Now you can load any other software like Oziexplorer.

Oops, forgot to say, do 1 or 2, not both.
They are options , each one getting you to the same step.

Sorry about that.

Hope it works.

I just did this to a system in the office because it was getting flakey after a few years, and shutting down once or twice a day. I do a system or three every year to keep them all running.

But I am not a computer guru :o), just basic mechanics like changing oil and bits and pieces on the car.

Was told there are 4 levels of computer experience.

1. Beginner - wary of everything.
2. User - knows enough to be dangerous.
3. Guru - an experienced user who is a dangerous dabler.
4. wizard - the one who can solve problems.

I am maybe nudging guru in a couple of areas. :o0

Thanks John C ........

re your :
(You should be able to boot from the XP CD in your CD drive, and ignore the boot sector on your hard disk.)

This is the main problem ! It wont boot from the CD, the CD icon appears on the desktop but trying to open it produces the dialogue [couldn't display "/media/cdrom)/setup.exe")

So the first problem really is the above bit !
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Re your :
(1. set the boot sequence in BIOS.
use del or as the post message displays to get bios.
there should be a setting for boot sequence.
put the CD before the hard disk.)

Here, I can't access the BIOS without rhe PassWord! Have tried a few logical 'backdoor' PWs' but no luck. Don't want to overdo it in case everything locks up !!

And that is the next area to resolve !
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I now have a better understanding of WINE ..............thanks to everybody .......... hopefully it will all come to fruition soonly ?

Pedro,

Sorry to hear your problems.

You can't change the BIOS, OK, obviously you can't go that way.

I assume you are not familiar enough with "control panel" to check if the device driver is OK for the CD drive, so lets not go there.

So all I can suggest is that at start up, i.e. pressing the on button, you press F8 every couple of seconds and see if it will over you the choice of booting from the CD rom drive.

Or as you mentioned, you look at WINE.

Agree, sort of Davoe,

Just spent 3 days trying to sort an XP driver problem.
XP has all of these fancy wizards, and after doing some delving it seems to be a corrupt register key.

At least Unix you edited the /etc or /lib files with a text editor.

Now where is my slide rule, it is faster than my calculator sometimes. :o) And it still works when the power is down. :o0

Me, a ludlite, never!

That's it, Davoe .....

I really just want it to work ... as I am not a computor geek, it's just a tool to me !!

However, all these responses have been great and I am clearer as to my now REAL question/s:

1 .... can Ubuntu be deleted/uninstalled FIRST and then XP INSTALLED ?
If so, how does one uninstall said Ubuntu ? Bearing in mind that Ubuntu is an unfamiliar system to me!

then I can simply follow the prompts to install XP, can I not ?

2 ... Or is Ubuntu required to help install XP and then get uninstalled itself ?

3 ... I'm getting a headache !!!

Which version of Windows do you suggest they run Davoe?

Pedro: seek help on a computer forum.

Yes, sounds a sound idea !

Tried here first as I hoped that others may have already had the problem and resolved IT.

Thanks to all ...............

The version Ive got as in dont know dont care ive got ozi and maps loaded on it plus anything else I just load up.
The fact is wheather anyhting else other than windows will actually work better if you know how to use it is irrelevent i just want my computer to work and like it or not nearly everything people like me are going to want to use are desighned to work with windows first and formost. And if it dont work there are alot more people who cn help me coz they know windows first and formost.
Some people love mucking about with the puter but for others its just a tool an ive got zero intrest mucking about i just want it to work

But having advised people they should use Windows, and given there are various versions - which differ quite a lot - which version do you think they should use?

Or are you not sure?

Mike Harding

you say they vary alot? maybe if you can tell the difference but after using many computers for work and my own etc i can assure you i cant tell the difference

Currently using windowsXP home edition and i had to look to find out coz it works the same as other windows ive used.

Ozi Ex will _not_ run under Unix/Linex/Ubuntu nor is it designed to.

You should be clear about which interpreter you used - possibly WINE? Doing this is not a trivial exercise for non computer people.

Mike Harding

Windows apps do not run under Linux without some kind of emulator, hence that is why WINE was created.

Yes I did use WINE as it is one of only a few Windows emulators for Linux and it is the most common one documented.

WINE is easy to setup, and the whole process I went thru took from my first post to now.

I am documenting this and will happily help anyone who would like to do it.

Linux is not easy to learn, but Ubuntu is the closest Linux distro you will get to a Windows environment. If you have the time to learn Ubuntu you will find it kinda cool, and a nice change from Windows.

If you don't know MS-DOS or how to use Windows command prompt, then you will have trouble until you start to understand it.

>If you don't know MS-DOS or how to use Windows command
>prompt, then you will have trouble until you start to understand it.

Thanks John.

That is a more realistic description of the issues people will face.

Linux et al is a far better computer operating system than Windows but it is not as simple to use - assuming everything goes well with Windows - if it doesn't... then Windows can be very difficult.

Mike Harding

should also add that you can stop and start the windows virtual machine without rebooting the main PC.

For simplicity sake, WINE will do the job with Ozi. The WINE docos are good and the Ubuntu forums are a wealth of knowledge.

Vmware can take a bit to setup, plus you still need to install Windows, which can be an issue for a novice user. But some windows apps will not run under WINE, therefore Vmware would be the next best alternative.

The only issue I had was that I had to manually restart the connection to my bluetooth GPS after a reboot. But I have now scripted this when I run Ozi. Yes it took some time to get it right, but works 100% everytime.

As far as speed goes, I believe Ozi runns faster under Ubuntu than WinXP (I'm sure that statement with come back and haunt me!)

But in the end, if you don't need Linux then stick with Windows.