I pulled a tyre off the rim

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 12, 2008 at 23:30
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Needed a tyre off the rim for a sidewall repair. i was going to drop past a tyre shop and get it done when I thought it was time my tyrepliers and levers got some action.
Id heard horror storys about how hard it is but went ok.
Popping the beads was a snap with the pliers and getting one side off was easy. getting the whole tyre off was a bit harder but i worked my way round with a mallet and it was pretty straighforward.
Saved 10 bucks maybe but the experience was probably worthwhile
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Reply By: Banjo (WA) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:42

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:42
Davoe

I've had to do it twice out bush and like you found the task pretty easy.

Re-inflated them with the older ARB compressor too, without any drama.

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Reply By: Kev & Darkie - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:44

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:44
It gets easier as you do more, cause you work out the easier ways to get them off and back on. The first time is just trial and error.

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:51

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:51
Good Effort Davoe , while its something I don't look forward to we should be sure we can if we have to.

Last time i had to get the second side off I would have gladly given someone $10 and more to do it.

How did you go with the sidewall repair - on mine I failed to throughly clean up the inside of the tyre and the glue didn't hold for long and I had to re-do it.

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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:10

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:10
Sidewall repairs are done at a tyre retread place and cost about $60 they actually vulcanise rubber in as well. it is the 3rd one ive got done the first has been fine for over a year. The second they found multiple problems and at $60 a repair it was a write off.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:00

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:00
Thats good , mine had to be done in the bush and the second go held ok
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:55

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:55
Davoe,

The more you do it (changing tyres) the easier it becomes.
Uou don'y need to use a mallet to remove the tyre but there is an art to it. Using a mallet can damage tyres and rims.
I not sure if tyrepliers o a dvd but I think R&R bead breaker do.
Probably a bit diffiucult but I always go past thier stands at the 4wd shows just to refresh my memory. Also pays to do it at home occasionally so when you need to do it for real you can.
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 09:24

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 09:24
Hi Davoe
As Outanabout said- should be no need for the mallet to remove the tyre.
Using the levers flat against the raised part of the rim, and nibble a couple of inches at a time- easy/peasy.
And don't forget plenty of lubricant to refit..
Practice a few times on an old wheel....

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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:12

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:12
would be good to watch someone that knows what they are doing i have removed plenty of tyres....................... On my pushie
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 15:49

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 15:49
Davoe,
I also give the rim and bead a wipe with some soapy water before levering it off. The second bead usually slips off easier this way.
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:23

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:23
They're OK as long as the tyre hasn't been on the rim for too long. Then the TyrePliers can be a real b@rstard. Very easy to tear a sidewall with them if the bead just won't break.
If I get the chance I go along to my local tyre joint before a trip and have all the beads popped and reseated with some lube. Makes them much easier to repair in the bush. Costs a few bob but is money well spent IMO.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:56

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:56
It had been on the rim for nearly 2 years (when it was last repaired)
taking them off in the bush would only be a last resort if they were well stuffed anyway. I have used up to 4 plugs in sidewalls which worked fine.If there was a much bigger hole than that I think i would only be pulling it off for an attempted repair (gator and tube) if i reeely had to
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 16:52

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 16:52
"I go along to my local tyre joint before a trip and have all the beads popped and reseated with some lube"
I'm the opposite having my tyres dry fitted (no lube) from new so that when I let the pressure down for sand, mud or snow they don't pop off prematurely. Despite this & the fact my MTR's have very stiff side walls, the Tyreplyers still have no difficulty removing the tyre should I need to. A trick I was shown for stubbon rusty rims was to spray the seal with CRC 5 minutes prior and they come off far easier.
Cheers Craig.............
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Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 17:09

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 17:09
I bought a R&R Beadbreaker several years ago, and started doing 99% of my own repairs on a small fleet of vehicles and trailers, and have well and truly paid for my setup, not to mention the practice I get using this gear, ready for a bush repair should it a be needed.
The R&R is so easy to use for old farts like me, just a spanner to turn will break any bead.

Cheers Pesty
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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 17:36

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 17:36
Think that's what I've got.
I liked the idea of cranking a spanner rather than swinging on a lever, also being an old fart. Never fired a shot in anger so far. Hope it works!
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 18:13

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 18:13
the effort to break the bead was neglagble and i had both sides done in the amount of time it would have taken for me to find the right size spanner
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 18:56

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 18:56
Not knocking the tyrepliers Davoe, but this type of tool doesnt wear out, and will still be in service in 20 years when Im an older fart, and then I wouldnt be able to swing tyrepliers.
The spanner and all necessary gear has been added to the bag and is at my fingertips.
Changed a tyre for my ol man last w/e, had been on his trailer for over 20 years, was an effortless job to break the bead, even though it was well rusted on.

Cheers Pesty
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 19:10

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 19:10
does the r and R actually assist with removing the tyre or just break the bead?
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 21:31

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 21:31
Bead breaking, stretching the tyre open to help access for internal patch repairs and can assist with reinstaling the tyre if needed.

Cheers Pesty
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Follow Up By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 22:52

Thursday, Mar 13, 2008 at 22:52
Warning on the R &R...I find it excellent....... but one time when I had two flats on the back simultaneously (that is a separate story !).......when I went to use it the little nut / bolt that is used to adjust for rim size had vibrated out...never to be found...and it is a mongrol size not to be found in all my bits of bolts collection or on the vehicle anywhere that could have been borrowed

Ended up unable to use it and used the front wheel trick of running them off the rim...difficult with the back flat as well

I now carry a couple of spares of those bolts/nuts

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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 06:01

Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 06:01
I have Tyre-Pliers and love them,, have used the R & R Beadbreakers too ,,The thing I do not like is actually taking the tyre off the rim, because there is still only one way.

Hey Pesty, at the moment I am reasonably fit too, ( my work sees to that )

But I do like your comments about as we get older, getting there , and faster than I would like ! Then I will ditch the tyre-pliers

Cheers Mate
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