Tata signs Jaguar, Land Rover acquisition deal

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 at 16:38
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Land Rover is being passed around like a hot potato! or perhaps a hot pompadom maybe a more appropriate : )
http://news.smh.com.au/tata-signs-jaguar-land-rover-acquisition-deal-with-ford-report/20080326-21op.html
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 at 18:06

Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 at 18:06
Jaguar has been a dead loss for years, Landrover however have experienced their best sales ever due to the release of the last few models., actually standing up on their own. Fords losses globaly have been pretty hefty, so Jag , Landrover, Volvo, probably aren't the only companys being sold.

Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Dunaruna - Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 at 19:51

Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 at 19:51
It's an unfortunate fact of modern corporate business practice, badge loyalty is dead.

If you have the time take a look here, keep in mind that the players change regularly.

who owns what
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Follow Up By: Kumunara (NT) - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 13:31

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 13:31
Dunaruna


Very interesting link

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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 17:10

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 17:10
Dunaruna,

You're right, they do change regularly. You can expand the Porsche bubble in the link to swallow the VW one now. Porsche is about to take a controlling stake in VW.

Gets a bit hard to follow at times.
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Follow Up By: Dunaruna - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 17:25

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 17:25
It's not my graphic but I'll give it a go!

I didn't know that about Porsche. Of course, they have had a long standing partnership in the design and R&D departments, but no ownership ties (until now).

Porsche and Honda have long sung their own praises because they were (are) stand alone companies.
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 at 20:25

Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 at 20:25
So maybe it will be Tata Landrover.....hahahahahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 at 20:30

Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 at 20:30
Hahaha!, your a smart arse!...lol, A bit of indian engineering in a landy might help them along...not!.


Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Ekkeko - Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 at 23:12

Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 at 23:12
Tata might have the last laugh, Second biggest steel producer in the world and benchmarks against the best. About to produce the Nano for under $10,000 and won't that sort out the used car market like Hyundai did a few years back
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 13:09

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 13:09
I would back India's engineers to get rid of all the fruit and make a reliable vehicle again.
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Follow Up By: Ekkeko - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 01:01

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 01:01
You would be right Kiwi Kia. Tata trucks are famous for surviving in ridiculous conditions. They also bought a superceded Mercedes manufacturing line and had the germans relocate it and commission it in India. And one thing Rattan Tata does not lack is $$$$$. Family is Parsee not Hindi and they are renowned as clever business people
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 06:06

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 06:06
Parsee....that tickled my brain.....so I wondered where I had come across it.

"Once upon a time, on an uninhabited Island on the shores of the Red Sea, there lived a Parsee from whose hat the rays of the sun were reflected in a more-than-oriental splendour" from the book Just So Stories by Rudyard Kipling.


Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 06:56

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 06:56
Anyone know where Tata gets its metal from ? It's one of the worlds biggest steel makers. Perhaps they get their ore from .... wait for it....... Australia !

I can see the neon advertising signs or glossy pics in a certain 4wd mag, LandRover, built in India (with pride) using 'genuine' Pilbra iron ore :-))


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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 16:50

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 16:50
they won't be closing Solihull down
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 16:57

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 16:57
Give it time - say 1 or 2 years :-))
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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:18

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:18
realistically? Your kidding. 60 years of know how (and yep, mis-management) isn't likely to be chucked out.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:28

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:28
actually, a Turban at the top table and lots of Pommy gophers isn't as silly as it sounds. Not in Birmingham anyway.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:30

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:30
Not kidding at all Steve, the Indians are not fools. Mass production and sales will keep the marque going and I doubt they can do that in the UK. Also surely the bulk of their sales will be in countries that actually want vehicles that can climb more then just speed bumps ie. third world and that means prices a lot lower then what Solihull can build for. Perhaps we will once again see a 4wd vehicle being produced that can take a proper recovery hook bolted onto a solid chassis member.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:42

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:42
well, as you say, they're not idiots and maybe they will have turbans at the top table in Solihull to supervise the ongoing development of Rangies and Discos whilst the Defender soldiers on in the Punjab or wherever.

It'll be interesting to see what happens after the fat cats of BMW and Ford have failed to make a go of it. Then again, I don't think Ford are doing too well with their own product - don't know about BMW
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:53

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:53
Steve, Ford have big money problems associated with the banking problems in the USA, they need cash.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 20:06

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 20:06
ha - don't we all ?

if they find it, I hope they give me a nod.


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Reply By: Keith_A (Qld) - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 18:49

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 18:49
And just as the World economy had a chance to recover.
It is the one transaction that could bring India to its knees. Damn pity. ..............................Keith:)
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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:23

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 19:23
and if the inevitable happens and Land Rover go down with India, who would the Japs have to copy then?

We'll be stuck with Nippon reliability (good) and innovation (not good) forever.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 20:02

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 20:02
Steve, what real innovation has come from LandRover in their whole lifetime ? The only thing that I can see that they have done recently is kept a solid rugged model in production long after all the other makers went to lightweight (tinnie) models. Now if they would only enlarge it and get rid of all the gizmo's a lot of people might actually go back to them. Good engine, good towing sub frame etc.
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