Vehicle Recomendations - No electronic control

A Landie Defender 110 series would probably be the closest match. Diesel or Petrol? Not the most comfie, but a length of bailing wire fixes most of the problems with it... :)

How about an ex army ww2 Blitz ? ( I think that is what they were called ) Big, green & meen & they could go anywhere, but left a bit to be desired in the comfort stakes.

Andrew,

GQ Patrol or 80 Series Cruiser

Around 1994/95 they all started to go electronic.

MQ and 60 Series would be good but were not very comfortable

75 Series has next to no electronics but again is leaf sprung.

Some of the early Defenders were straight forward, but I don't know when they went electronic.

Wayne

3F Petrol Sahara landcruisers from 1985-1989 (60series) have carbies, distributors and no computer, and for comfort, you can get the Sahara "extras" like bucket seats, dual air, icemaker, electric sunroof, fast glass, maybe even mechanical diff locks.
Probably pick one up for $5-6k. They chew thru the juice though.

What you are looking/wishing for was last seen on the Titanic.

I to would like one of these relics to replace my four (yep! 4) computers, managed 05 CRD JEEP with its 26 dash lights that can come on in either red, orange or green as well as either in blinking or solid mode. (Light diagnostic code list = 10 foolscap pages)

'Mother' of a thing that it is.

But as the man above said, that's how its been in one form or another since the early 1990's (post 'good old days')

Looking for a post-apocalyptic EMP-proof ride?

Sorry, couldn't help it!!

Two words

Lada Niva

Nuff said!! :)

Cheers Stefan

A std van 80 series has no electrics, no tacho, no nothing....shift manually into 4wd even....
A gq 4.2 litre diesel or petrol has no electrics...the petrols are points and carbi till the efi ones came out in the early 90's....and i cant help but say the landies dont usually have any electrics either...headlights/wipers/starter motrs, etc when needed :)
Andrew

horses in tandem sound pretty unscientific. My brother has horses on his place and I said they might come in handy for that fortnightly shopping trip the way things go.

Owen

a dizzy = electrics , better a diesel

Troopy HJ 47 2h Diesel...Go forever. Comfortable. Good offroad. Prone to rust

You didn't specify diesel or petrol
I have an '05 HZJ 105 cruiser that fits the bill.
Slow as a wet week, drinks more than the flashy/faster models, has SOME electrics for minor things but primarirly mechanical.
LOVE IT, Its got me everywhere I needed it to go, First thing I was gunna do was turbo it, but now cannot justify $4-5K.
Its got windows that you wind up, by HAND!
Vinyl seats, vinyl floor
The only way you can unlock the door is to put a key in it and turn, how old fashion is that.
If you wanted petrol, you would have to go back to 80's
Shane

Dirty old 60 series crusier, yeah that should do it. (the best A/C around)

Maybe a 2.8 diesel hilux???

The only electrics I can find on mine are the glowplugs and the solenoid on the fuel pump. The alternator's a little underpowered though.

Someone else recommended the 3F motor. We had one of these in a troopy (1985 75 series) about as basic as you can get but the body rusts way too easily. If you're not a lead foot they're not too bad on fuel...

Anyway, have fun searching.

Apart from performance that still can't be beaten today, a reason I brought a 2002 manual 4800 GU patrol was that it had minimal electronic systems , and where it did, and what it had ,could be shown to be more reliable than distributors etc.

It also had no turbo or hi pressure fuel systems and best of all it didn't have a fussy fuel that the girls dislike.

Only ever had one fault and that was a dam mechanical timing gear when brand new.

Okey Dokey, My turn now!
If you require big station wagon type rig have a look at a 4.2 TD GU Patrol. Before anyone screams the 4.2 diesel used in the Patrol was designed over 30 years ago, so there is no modern hoop-la electronics fitted, so you don't need a computer degree or a spare cpu (as you do for the 3L version) to get it going or keep it going. i.e. simplicity


madcrow

the bearer of bright bunnie rabbits. Go figure!

Thanks for all the responses so far, I should have been a little more specific regarding diesel or petrol and I don't mind which. I'm trying to avoid anything with an engine management computer, body computer, door control module, cam sensor, crank sensor, MAF sensor, dikdsuekhwqiuwbckwuwfiwb sensor etc etc.

If it's got an unnecessary computer or sensor on it I'm not interested :-)

(And again sorry to emphasise the point but I'm not looking for a debate on why).



Cheers

Andrew

HJ60 Diesel, once started you don't need a battery ...in fact you need the battery to stop it! .... Unless you stall it.

The only question would be the oil pressure sensor system which shuts down the engine with low oil pressure which I believe is electrical......

Try an 80 series L/c GXL Diesel - no electronics in sight provided you don't put your mobile phone in your pocket while driving it.

Comfy too even after 10 years or more.

Sell you mine for $50 grand!

Max

Ive got to say...that some times it is worth using electronics like electronic ignition....keeps the car in tune better and wont stop if water comes near it....or when you run gas it makes it easier for the motor to cope with both uleaded and gas having a stronger spark.
That said, there were ways around water ingress....having a tee off the exhaust manifold running through the dizzy via pipe and valve when going across water and moving the air intake to behind your head works well....it all comes down to how dependable you need the motor to be.
The best 80 series is the diesel std van with nothing electronic, the early ones even have cable spedo and drum rear brakes. All you need to do to make them go anywhere is fit a snorkel.
Every car has some sort of weak spot, and the 80's is the front diff. A difflock makes a big diff-erence
Andrew

I personally dislike too much electronics in 4WD because I do not believe that it makes our forby more reliable. Little bit more grunt, little bit better fuel consumption – no doubt, but extra reliability – do not think so. But may I ask you those question what you ask us not ask you? I.e. WHY?!? Even biggest pessimist toward too much gizmos should admit that modern ECU (engine control units, either petrol or diesel) do not really contribute to breakdown at all. Nowadays they probably most reliable component of our cars. “Fixability”? Also questionable. For example what you will do if you have stuffed diesel high-pressure pump on field? Does it make you feel happier that it is fully mechanical device, but you still cannot fix it right bl00dy now? So as for ECU I will go for it these days without any hesitation. Fancy automatic 4WD management found in Disco-3 for example is another story altogether and it is clearly not for me at all :-))))))

Direct answer to your question is my entry-level 80 series diesel cruiser. Only electrical things is required to run it is mentioned before fuel solenoid and I am sure it can be blocked or modified to mechanical valve. I also use to have 60 series diesel. And although it luck such solenoid, it has another very annoying “feature” – glow plugs. Because diesels in 60 is “indirect inject” diesels with relatively low compression it is no way to start it by simple push – tow vehicle and extensive pulling required if engine cold. While 80 use higher compression engines (still indirect, but another kind of), and thus it is easy “startable” even from very gentle downhill, thus it can be started with virtually flat battery, while “fully mechanical” 60 cannot be. So what it your point? :-))))))))

Thanks for the replies above.
We have a HJ61 Turbo Diesel (Direct Injection)1988 Landcruiser and its main job is to tow our caravan. We are happy with this vehicle and it has not let us down in the bush, but there is always a first time.
So from the above I will find out where:
. The fusible links are.
. The internal regulator.
. Oil pressure Sensor.
. The wire to the Fuel Solenoid.
We carry the Gregorys and Toyota Workshop Manuals as well as tools and spares with us and a Sat phone to call for assistance. But it is better if we can resolve the problem ourselves.

Peter