Border Track - above Renmark to sea
Submitted: Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 22:09
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Trev (SA)
Hi all,
I am thinking about a 3-4 day trek for a few vehicles and looking for something different.
Have done the
Pinnaroo - Bordertown leg of the
Border track a number of times and also dabbled on the legs above
Pinnaroo (
Renmark) and below Bordertown.
Looking to take a trek following the border as close as possible (just for something to do) from the Murray above
Renmark to the coast. I know there is a need to deviate a bit above
Pinnaroo. I am most interested in any information regarding the stretch south from Frances as the maps I have do not show any consistent track along the border south of there.
Thanks in advance for help
Trevor
Reply By: Willem - Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 22:34
Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 22:34
Hmmmmm...Have driven the Track from the Murray to
Little Desert in two stages at different times. I got a tad lost just before Bordertown when I drove into a farmers field and lost the track. Deviated through a property to the west and then crossed the Dukes on to Wolseley and down to
Little Desert. Even near the Desert it becomes vague in
places and had to scout around to find the right track. Would be interested as
well to see who has done the bit south of Frances
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Trev (SA) - Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 23:34
Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 23:34
Hi Willem,
Similar to yourself I have attacked it in a number of different times. Have turned South where the Sturt Highway crosses the border and eventually hit farmland (the maps show a detour). I took the Westward route from there to
Adelaide rather than working my way around.
Pinnaroo to Bordertown is no worries.
Have also gone South from near Servicetown into
Little Desert but South from Frances is a bit of an unknown so any info from others would be good.
My maps show some tracks along the border from around the Penola Rd but seems to be a big gap in between? Anyone know if there is a track through?
Trev
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Reply By: John R (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 08:45
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 08:45
From Frances south you will have to shadow the border. You'll always be within 2 or 3 km of it.
About 50km due south of Frances you'll hit the Penola-Langkoop road, where you will be able to return to the border.
It is for a stretch a sand track through scrub, then becomes gravel and at times bitumen.
At the Penola-
Casterton road, you will again have to take a small detour around private property, but only for a few km.
From there south my knowledge is limited to what I see on the map, but it should be a pretty clear run through to the coast. That country is mostly pines, so I would be quite confident of sticking to the border if I was doing it.
Hope that's of some help. Sing out if you want more detail.
Cheers,
JR
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:40
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:40
I did the
Little Desert part over
easter, from North to South. It is a bit tricky finding the northern end coming down from
serviceton, because if you follow the border road south, you come to a deadend with a far
gate on the western side of the road.
I doubled back and found the road into the
little desert park (Via Cooks road I think). I then worked my way over to the
border track, then headed north to try and find the beginning of it.
When I got to the northern end of the track in
little desert, according to my GPS I was only about 500 meters or so from where I stopped and Turned back on the road. Also, there was a
gate to the west and a track heading north through the paddock that looks like it joins up with the
gate at the end of the road south from
serviceton. All this
gate had on it was a "Please shut the gate" sign, so I assume it would be Ok to connect up. This
map and
border photoshows the area I am talking about
Does anyone know if you can get through ?
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Follow Up By: Mr Pointyhead - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 18:31
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 18:31
The most southern point I got to on the road south from
serviceton was
Lat: 36.461963 S
Long: 140.968127 E
The most northern point to got to in
Little desert on the
border track was
Lat: 36.466115 S
Long: 140.968172 E
Do if you load the points up on google maps or a gps you will see how close they are together.
The way I got into the park was NOT via Cooks road as it had a
gate. I had to go back to Leeor Road. I then went across the Northern Break, down Cooks road, across to Blackboy track, down Blackboy to Elliots Track, then along Elliots Track to the border. I found the driving reasonably easy (for anyone who has done some sand driving), except where there are few dried out bog holes that would be hard to get through after rain.
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Reply By: Dasher Des - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:54
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:54
Trev,
You can't actually start from the river and proceed south.
We did a club trip a couple of years ago and someone knew the owner who took us via tracks to the actual border marker on the rivers edge. Cliffs stop you from following the border and you then need to take the Lindsay Point road to the border. You could travel north for a short distance but you are on Private Property.
From the Lindsay Point Road it is an easy run down to the Sturt Highway. There is a couple of interesting things to see on the way down. There is a stone cairn right on the edge of the road that has something to do with the original survey and a bit further down, the boundary has a dog leg in it where it is possible to stand in SA and look westwards into Victoria. Another surveying area.
There is also a book co written by
John Deckert of Westprint maps called the disputed border which makes interesting reading.
The track should be open all the way if not this weekend, then definitely the next weekend.
I think the SA4WDA are having a working bee on the track over the Anzac weekend in the area south of
Pinnaroo.
Have a good trip
Des
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Reply By: Trev (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 19:50
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 19:50
Thanks for your help all.
I have been into the
Little Desert part before and know what you mean about the way in being hard to find ...... and we did it in the dark!
Cheers
Trev
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Reply By: Malleerv - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 20:53
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2008 at 20:53
Hi Trev,
There is a book called Mallee Tracks by Jill Nickolls and Ann Angel. You should be able to grab a copy from the ranges office in
Pinnaroo or
Lameroo. This will help you through the parks but once you get down to Frances I am told there is a border lane about 100mtrs wide with a track in it. I have not been along it but have crossed it in many
places south of Frances. You many encounter gates along it as the local farmers graze the lane. Sorry I could not be more help.
Cheers Matt
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Follow Up By: Trev (SA) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2008 at 00:33
Wednesday, Apr 02, 2008 at 00:33
Hi Matt,
I have the book you mention and it is a good one.
The book doesn't give much insight to the lower section which is really where I haven't been and where the maps don't show any obvious track that goes for all the way down the border. From the maps I have there are sections but you need to detour off the border regularly.
Hey, maybe the best bit of the trip will be heading out there to find out!
Thanks everyone for their input
Trev
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