About to get screwed again

Last I heard was that LPG would have fuel excise applied sometime around 2010/2011. That was prior Rudd.

yeas thats being incremented over a time period..

but they have already upped it at the fuel Safeway level.. LOL!

Now Truckie, they're only poor little corner grocers trying to eke out a living :)))

I still dont get that whole baby bonus thing. We have managed to raise 4 kids with no baby bonus. My wife has alwaya been at home for them as that is a choice we made many years ago. Yes we have suffered to some degree as we dont own a house, nor do we realy wish to, but we dont complain, we just get on with it and do the best we can with what we have.

Our lifestyle isnt too bad and once retired we are planning to upgrade the camper (as we will be too old and decrepid to actually get it up and down) to an off road van and then live the gypsy lifestyle, with no fixed or forwarding address. What bliss...

Totally off the main comment about gas but about "baby bonus", wife works where she corrosponds alot with a lady from medicare. The latest question that alot of young ladys are ringing up and asking is " If I have a bay and give it up for adoption do I still get the baby bonus" My wife see's red. As a few people on here know my wife and I have spent just on 20 grand for IVF so very sore point to be bringing up with my wife. And yes they still are entitled to the bonus should they decide to go down that path. Regards Steve M

I need to learn to use spell check before hitting the submit button." If I have a bay and give it up for adoption do I still get the baby bonus" Should be if I have a BABY not bay.

Will the baby bonus be retrospective ?? :))

I'd love to get something from the Govt for "free", just once in my lifetime !
No pensions, allowances, etc etc EVER from the Govt. We were always the ones getting screwed so that others could get welfare payments. We brought up two great kids who contribute to the coffers, and we still pay tax. When will the taxpayers get something back ?

I knew a single mum with 4 kids once. She was always saying that she "got paid" next week. That used to infuriate me. She got her pension next week I used to tell her. You get paid to WORK, not to drink and listen to music while you send the kids to the shop to buy smokes for you.

Don't know why they don't just go and say Vote for me and I give you $4.000.....

Reiner

baby bonus is an investment for the goverment. they invest $3000.00 now and when the little ones grow up and start work they will get taxed to the bleep e house like us but worse. that is why they introduced it . polititions , arnt they a wonderfull thing.

LOL Stephen, pictured a bay foal in my mind. God its been a long day got to go to bed
Cheers Pete

You gassed your 3lt? Bet that goes hard? Any idea on HP figures?

Thinking of getting my 4.2 done so may have to hurry up and make my mind up.
Cheers, trevor.

Hey Trevor

Yeah it does go real well now, picked up something between 20 - 30% increase (estimated, as you can definitely feel the difference when the gas isnt on), and I reckon I also picked up some economy gains as well. Last trip with camper did about 14.7 / 100 and with the gas the fuel cost averaged out at about $1.37 litre compared to straight diesel at $1.60, so I reckon I am miles ahead as being in WA managed to get 3K back in rebates.

Most gas kits are generic, and dont always match the engine in your car correctly. Each model engine has different characteristics and gas kits need to take this into consideration even if the engines are the same capacity (ie Ford 4.2 6cyl -v- Holden 4.2 V8). But to save money on R&D they generalise a kit for a range of engines.

I learnt lots from a very old friend of the family who had worked with LPG for 30 odd yrs. He used to modify our mixers to match the engine. We would get slightly better fuel consumption than petrol and more power. Direct injection LPG is the best way to go, but spend the money on a programable ECU and get it tuned on a Dyno.

Head damage is an issue, and LPG installers should tell you if your engine if not LPG ready - but they rarely do. Do your research well or be ready to replace the heads.

As far as engine wear goes - LPG is far better for an engine than petrol - we useually get over 500,000km out of an engine running on LPG (either factory or converted), and the engine usually only needs rings, bearings and a value grind.

Our cars do over 100,000km each a year and LPG saves us around $10k per year per car.

And I can't wait to see if the cost of LPG installs comes down - I bet it doesn't !!

I had LPG on several cars before the rebate and the price was around $2000 - @2800. Just after the rebate the cost doubled. E=MC squared(can't do the sign) Rip Off by the installers.

Phil

Have to disagree with not saving fuel. Given you dont actually save fuel but with my gas injection my overall fuel cost has come down by around 20c - 25c / litre overall. Living here in WA at the moment it will take me a while to recoup it, but when we do move back east and I start to do in the realms of 80000 Kms - 90000 Kms / year it will definitely be of great vcalue to me at least.

Gday Richard,
Yeah, I didn't make myself clear. The amount of fuel saved by doing a diesel/gas conversion isn't going to save as much as a straight gas conversion on a petrol vehicle.

80-90k a year is a lot of k's!!!! Sounds like you'll be ducking back to WA every month :-)))

Hey Phil

No you are definitely correct in saying that, but having a diesel I dont have too much choice :)

Yeah was living at Lake Macquarie and commuting to Sydney every day. Had the chance to come over to the West for 3 or 4 years so jumped at it, as it is too far to come from a holiday frmo the East Coast when you only have linited time.

Have been here almost 2 years now so about 2 more to go, then we will probably move back to Lake Macquarie again, or we may have the chance to do a couple of years in New Zealand.

Was just what I read in paper. Could be months off who knows, unless truckster heard some thing different on the radio. Regards Steve M

been thinking about doing this for a while and Steevo's post gave me the final push.

Previously, I paid $2300 for a LC100 petrol/LPG conversion just before the rebate came in, then that went up overnight to anything upwards of $3500 - now I have a 300 tdi Defender and booked it in yesterday. Quoted $3600, which is $900 cheaper than another local bloke quoted me for the same (eCo-shot) he gave me an invoice with the claim forms which I lodged with medicare yesterday. The old slugger goes in on Thursday - then I'm off to Straddie for a couple of weeks so it'll have a good run up from NSW Central Coast. Towing a fully laden car with trailer, family and kayaks on the roof-rack I get 12.9/100 doing average 95 kph so I'll give you the new figures when I get back. I don't enjoy crawling up those l-o-n-g hills around what used to be Sullivan's Gap, so am hoping for a bit of an improvement. I've read of claims of 30% better fuel economy but to expect more like 10% but 25/30% more grunt, which'll do me.