Kiwi's at it again

Submitted: Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 16:53
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Kiwi is at a loss as to what the difference is between a cattle farm and a cattle station LOL

Is it worked out per number of head?, number of acres?, number of Hectares? or number of Square kilometers??

As an aside to this question how many EO people would go to this place if I could arrange it and what time of year would suit most (maybe next years National Gathering)

Langmorn and Old Station near Raglan QLD

I did an inspection of their facilities yesterday and will find out what 4wd tracks etc are available as well.

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Reply By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:04

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:04
Thanks Kev. I know I can always rely on you to get the answers for me!LOL!!....although answer this....do we sell or not?? I think not.

As for that place, like I told ya this morning....nice...and in a few yrs Ill have a place like this and we can have it there too!!
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:08

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:08
Sell ya little cow paddock and buy a cattle station LOL

So when will we have a gathering there??

They also hold an Airshow out there every Queens Birthday Weekend.

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Follow Up By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:19

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:19
maybe just buy a cattle station...or a farm....still have everyone thinking here!!
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:12

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:12
Hi Kev ,

I would like to go to a meet in Qld , but that place does not look very interesting . No water to swim and fish in . Just damper eating , roo patting etc .

I think a meeting place would have to have a bit more going for it - or maybe in the middle of some very interesting country.

Thanks ,

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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:28

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:28
Willie,

Just to the rear of the aircraft hanger (which is also the new entertainment and accommidation complex) is a large waterhole that is great for swimming in, they told me that in past years they have caught Mangrove Jack up to 10lbs as well as Barra in there.

The property would only be a point to set up camp from which to explore. I am unsure what tracks are present on the property but know of quite a few within 40 mins that are quite spectacular.

Just need time to fully research and gather ideas from others

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 19:30

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 19:30
Gees Kev ,

That sounds a lot better than what it shows on their website .

Cheers mate ,

Willie .
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 19:40

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 19:40
I will get a few pics when I am up there next, might be a month or so though.

They are still only in the teething stage of setting it up properly so I am sure that the site will improve in time.

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Reply By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:55

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 17:55
kev

I don't think there is any definition. The size of a station doesn't necessarily equate to carrying capacity. For example:

1. Anna Creek. Around 24000Km2 with a capacity to carry 12- 15000 head.
2. Helen Springs. 12000Km2 with a capacity of 50000 head.
3. Kimberley Downs. Approx 1m acres. 20000 head.

There's a property for sale north east? of Katherine, but your mate will need long pockets!

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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 18:01

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 18:01
Long pockets?? I thought you just needed them to buy a house around here LOL

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Follow Up By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 20:18

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 20:18
Is that the one about 80 km out of Katherine???? They might be the ones needing a HR qualified truckie for temp position leading to full time....
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 18:18

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 18:18
a farm is usually freehold and clearflled for the production of pasture of crops.
a station is usually leasehold where stock is run over existing vegetation
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 22:07

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 22:07
Davoe,

That seems pretty accurate to me.

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Follow Up By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 12:30

Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 12:30
so how come you can have a dairy farm but not a dairy station???
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 14:13

Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 14:13
Kiwi,

For some of the reasons Davoe stated. Forgetting the leasehold/freehold bit, I don't think you'll see many dairy farms that have'nt been clear felled or that run stock over existing ( native? ) vegetation.

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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 22:08

Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 22:08
Because dairy farms require high enery food for the cows milk production. hence why they are usually farms in high rainfall areas with clearfelled farms supporting lush grass
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Reply By: Isuzumu - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 18:21

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 18:21
HI Kev, was wandering if you know what the cost of camping was there please. Hope to go back to Yeppoon in the September school hols, might be some where to check out I think

Cheers Bruce

PS Maybe a good spot for a Qld gathering sometime.
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 18:25

Saturday, Apr 05, 2008 at 18:25
Bruce,

I will find out for you, the new complex isn't open just yet but will be very soon.

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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 00:07

Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 00:07
Its quite easy really Kev. A cattle farm is a farm with cows in the paddocks, and bulls in the pens and every so often the bulls get in with the cows and then there are calves and the cycle continues....

A cattle station is like a moosic FM station for cows with i-pods or FM radios, like 95.3 MOO-FM or 2X2 TEAT-FM. Cattle stations are more prevalent inland as the other FM stations drown them out in the cities.

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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 00:10

Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 00:10
Oi !!!! Where's the pics of the Un Zud campervan and the unfortunate Saab :)))

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 00:13

Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 00:13
Sadly there ar no pics Gramps and NO I dont know those French Nissan drivers
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:48

Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:48
There is quite a good moosic FM station up here as well LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Kath - Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 16:22

Sunday, Apr 06, 2008 at 16:22
Bonz, like this one? Could only be this one.......... :-)))) I like the Premium chocolate too though.
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Reply By: Member - Rotord - Monday, Apr 07, 2008 at 20:58

Monday, Apr 07, 2008 at 20:58
Geez , you blokes need a history lesson . The difference is not in size or structure , it is in perception of social standing . At the time of settlement our English ancestors could be farmers and be of very high social standing . So , John and Elizabeth Macarthur named the founding farm of the Austalian sheep industry ' Elizabeth Farm ' . But soon after that period , the lowest levels of Australian free society settled on basic farms to scratch out a subsistance . So , unlike in England to be described as a farmer no longer automatically indicated a high social standing . Then came the Squatter . These were mainly newly arrived landed gentry with the means to take up and develop vast sheep and cattle runs , and they were keen to claim a position in society higher than the subsistance level farmers . So they described themselves as graziers . A grazier could call his property whatever he liked , so long as it wasn't a ' farm' . Graziers had runs , stations and downs , and there was no strict definition of size or form so long as there was a presumption of superior social standing and they didn't plow pick or milk . Now I know the waters were muddied a bit by the later flood of pioneer station settlers who actually started with little and had to labour for years to attain the affluence that is the normally associated with high social standing , but even this group new they were graziers and not farmers .In the more egalitarian present there are some who descibe themselves as cattle farmers but this is usually so as not to be seen as putting on airs in the company of farmers .
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