Good Nick 2nd Hand - what sort of price premium is it worth??

Oops.......forgot the important bit. If it was really good and I was totally hooked on it, I'd go $5k over market. Im not city based though, so risk of it going missing one night is reduced considerably.

Hang on, are you saying that your 2000 with 350000km is worth $29000 but a 1999 with <100000km and immaculate is not worth anything over $30000?

Off-track, This part had me confusssed also!!

Mark

Sorry guys, I should be more clear. I have plenty of accessories which gives the price of 29K, agreed, an over-inflated feel to a standard 2000 Patrol price. Also what the insurance company and me feel is market price of these trucks is different, I don't think they are worth what other people are paying, which is what the insurance company goes by. They feel mid 20's for a high km 2000 Patrol is OK in standard trim, I feel early 20's at best for a high km (like mine) with no accessories Patrol is more closer to "my" expectations.

So, I think under 30G for this "immaculate" 99 would be worth another look otherwise "I" would keep looking. As always, I respect other people may have varying opinions and each to their own is always my philosophy. I think up to 5 or so grand extra is OK for an immaculate vehicle compared to an average truck and 5 or so grand less for one with very high k's is reasonable, depending on other damage of course.

Regards, Trevor.

Now I'm with ya!

G'Day,

I would consider what benefit you will get from an immaculate vehicle over a very good vehicle for the extra 5k or so given that you may use it for touring etc rather than just for looks. For 35k you have plenty of other options. Good luck,

Dave

Dave,

If you reckon you need a little more puff for getting up the hills, I would cross out the N/A cruiser. I'm happy just putting along in mine at the moment, but now that I have a camper trailer, I do find it lacking somewhat.

To turbo the 105 is a fairly involved task, particularly if you want to do it properly and have the engine last a long time. There is a number of great posts on the lcool forum about turbo-charging the 1HZ motor and the general consensus is that the later 1HZ's have lighter pistons than the older versions and thus are not as well suited to forced induction. The job would involve a fuel pump recalibration and injector service right from the start, followed by the turbo installation with intercooler and VERY careful attention to fuel settings and boost pressure, EGT gauges, fuel anaeroid installation and exhaust. I calculated that I wouldn't get much change out of $7k all up....maybe even a little more. APS were considered one of the best 'factory-looking' installations with great attention to detail.

If I had the spare readies, I would look around for a rolled low k's 80 series with the 1HDFT engine and do a transplant with mine (after full rebuild). Sell off all the bits I don't need and hopefully come out if it better than shelling out for a properly installed turbo. One of the lcool forum moderators has done just that and has tweaked things and added an intercooler and I don't think you would be able to pry this vehicle out of his cold dead fingers if you tried. He now calls it a HDJ105 (of which there were none made by toyota unfortunately).. He has the benefits of rigid front suspension and a turbo intercooled motor which from all reports goes very well and should have great longevity.....just dreaming a little.

Good luck in your search, Dave.

Cheers,

Mark

>> Suddenly it's a $40k truck worth $27k on insurance

... surely you would go agreed value, not market value ? Problem solved.

You already know its going to be 10-15k to setup ya new truck with it to a level of comfort and travel ready...


>> But otherwise if I'm going shopping for a $40k truck it's back to
but your not paying $40k for it. If you buy somethin for $40k, then your going another $10-15k for duty tires etc... so its a $55k truck

So if your going $55k trucks, you may as well look at new.



>> If I can find an '04 GU 4.2 with 100,000km on it for $30ish I'd be happier.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha so would 10,000 other people.

PS. Yes, for $30k it would be a good buy... If its "THAT" good it may stilll be a good buy at $33k...

Just a side note Dave, about your tyres. If you have 15" rims on the courier that fit the stud pattern of the Patrol, they will fit on an early (99) patrol no worries. So the tyres you already have may suit your new Patrol if you choose to go that way, and offload the H/T's when you offload the Courier????? just a thought.

Also out of interest, my uncle (mid 60's age bracket) has an 01 Patrol with 150K and it is seriously babied but has had heaps done to the motor like mine. He has replaced 5th gear and has o/back drawers ect ect (Top tourer). I am in regular contact with him and he is aware when he offloads his, I want first divvy if the price is right. At the moment we are at approx late 20's to 30G but he is still unsure if he wants to keep it or not. I would probably go to about 32G on his but if it ends up more than this I would let it walk even knowing the history of this rig and everything it's not worth more than that to me.

Cheers, Trevor.

Sounds like you had a win. I considered I did well picking my '04 up for 42k (45,00km, ST-L). I have since spent about 6k on it......with a few more to go (its in at the moment getting taller and the lpg off the old 2.8 at the moment)

I finally have the vehicle I want, so I can justify spending the cash on accessories and the springs. Its hard to know where to stop. I'm happy with the performance, will be interesting to see how the gas goes on it.....but I have been offered a drive in one with the turbo upgrade and the fella who owns it thinks it will make me very dissapointed with mine. may be far cheaper not to take it for a drive.

I'll post a few photo's in a couple of weeks when the mods are finished!

Cheers Andrew