05 pajero chassis strentgh

Submitted: Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 18:24
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We purchased our 2005 pajero before we decided to buy a caravan.
Our vechile is rated at 2500kg with a toe ball weight of 250kg's. It has a proper reece hitch with the same ratings and now we have purchased a caravan that comes in at just under 2000kg's and toe ball weight at about 170kg's. Now our question is has anyone heard about the pajero chassis, which can stretch and even in some cases crack as we now have been informed by some people. Can this happen because the pajero doesn't have a full chassis(it's a monocoque design) or is this because these people have exceeded the weight limit to what the vechile was rated for towing.
Thanks for any replies.
The Vinman
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Reply By: Notso - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 18:35

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 18:35
I know a lot of happy paj and caravan owners who reckon they are the bees knees.

I haven't heard of the problems of chassis cracking.

Like most things if you look after it and don't overload it it will probably give great service.
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Reply By: pickle - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 19:05

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 19:05
Maybe you should look at this thread and the video to ease your mind.
http://140.99.20.180/forum/showthread.php?t=2251

Dave
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Reply By: Bill13 - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 19:41

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 19:41
The Pajero will tow the van quite easily with no damage to the chassis. I currently tow a 2350kg van (loaded ) and have not had any trouble at all. I would suggest that you fit poly-airs to the rear springs or like me fit king springs and billstrine (spelling) shockies.
I have a temp gauge fitted to the auto transmission and tow in 4th gear. This keeps the temp at around 50 - 60deg . I have had no other problems with the tug and am currently heading to NT and WA for 7 mths.
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Follow Up By: zacc - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 19:47

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 19:47
not trying to high jack the thread but i have a question for bill 13, where do you put the temp gauge on the auto and what sort of gauge do you use . cheers
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Follow Up By: Bill13 - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 21:51

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 21:51
Zacc, I put the sender unit of the temp gauge on the line from the auto box to the oil cooler mounted up front. There is a flat area of line about 300mm out from the tranny. With the engine and tranny at operating temp you can physically feel the difference in temp between the hot oil running to the cooler and the cooler oil returning to the tranny. T oil circulating does not run at high pressure so good clamps, supplied with kit will do the trick. After having it on the tug for a few years now I would not be without it when towing the van. When towing in 5th on time, I forgot to put it in 4th and the temp was 125deg, there were a few slight hills, put it into 4th and after a few klms it was back to 60deg. Here is the link where I bought it from. They do tranny temp kits for all vehicles.http://www.automatictransmission.com.au/release.asp?NewsId=12031
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Reply By: garrycol - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 19:49

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 19:49
An old wives or old dinosuar driver tale - generated by someone who cannot accept a 4wd without a seperate chassis
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Reply By: rredbeak - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 19:54

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 19:54
the pajero is a truly great tow vehicle,so much so that its recomended as THE tow vehicle by the RACQ.
I wouldnt part company with my Pajero,its taken us around OZ one and a half times with NO hiccups...Just keep it serviced and dont worry about chassis rumours,theyre unfounded...Happy Trails
Rod
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 21:47

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 21:47
"THE tow vehicle"....really? I wouldn't go so far as to say that. hmmm

I would have thought they would be ever so slightly underpowered, and not the ideal vehicle with stock suspension setup with a heavy tow.

Andrew
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 09:21

Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 09:21
Andrew, have a look in your owners handbook. You'll find the Paj has as much power and only slightly less torque than a cruiser or patrol, especially the naturally aspirated versions, and is a lighter vehicle to boot. As for soft suspension, even the aforementioned cruiser/patrol needs some help in that dept. ;-))
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 10:05

Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 10:05
Thanks John...i'm not against the Paj, just surprised to hear that it THE vehicle. "Normal" caravans no problem, just that i have noticed that it needs a little more when towing a heavy trailer....other vehicles may provide the power and torque required.

I don't want to bag the Pajero at all, or even start a Toyota/Patrol ego war, just was surprised that's all.

Thanks again.

Andrew
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Follow Up By: rredbeak - Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 13:28

Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 13:28
i rang the RACQ and explained that i wanted a 4wd to tow a 1800kg van around oz. the response was immediate and precise "buy a Pajero"...i did and im not sorry. it'll sit on the highway along with cruisers and patrols on 100 [hills excepted].
we travel in airconditioned comfort the same as cruisers. we get 600km out of a tank towing,around 900 without the van...

i LOVE my Paj,TY RACQ for steering me right... happy trails..Rod
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Reply By: Angler - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 20:51

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 20:51
They are actually rated at 3500/350Kg in NZ . Nothing wrong with them, great truck.

Pooley
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 21:48

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 21:48
How do they get such a high rating in NZ Pooley?

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Dunaruna - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 22:01

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 22:01
3300kg in NZ. Still, that's 800 more than us.
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Follow Up By: pjchris - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 23:04

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 23:04
It's all in the maths...

The GCM (Maximum combined weight of vehicle and trailer) is the same in both countries.

The GVM is the same. The kerb weight is the same...

If you towed 3300kg with a Paj in NZ I don't think you could carry anything at all in the vehicle itself.

Aus: GVM + Tow weight = GCM
NZ: Tare (Kerb) + Tow weight = GCM

At least that's how it worked for the NM/NP

Peter
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Reply By: vinman - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 22:19

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 22:19
thanks for all the replies and the additional info, it puts our minds at ease now.
the Vinman and natnat
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 02:46

Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 02:46
pajs are the 3rd most common tow veicle behind cruises and patrols. any problems would be well and truly documented with a yahoo search by now
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