Nokia Next G with External antenna

Submitted: Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 18:34
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Aftyer searching this site ( informative), and talking to Telstra (useless) I am trying to find a Nokia Next G phone with an external antenna conection.

From this forum it looks like the best option is a N95 or 6120. Does anyone one have any real world experience with either of these ( or other current Nokias) with inductive antennas from say Force technology comparing their performance with and with out the inductive antenna or know of a Nokia Next G phone with an external antenna.

Please no suggestions of other brands, been there and regret it every time, I am just used to Nokia's UI.

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Reply By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 18:55

Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 18:55
Nokia 6120, with a Force car kit is what i use. Works well
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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 19:41

Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 19:41
Same her with either a screen mounted or broomstick antenna.
Never mind that I find the phone has signal in handheld mode more than the CDMA ever did.
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Reply By: Member - Peter H (WA) - Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 19:11

Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 19:11
Hi Tony

The 95 doesnt have an external antenna connection.

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Follow Up By: stocky - Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 21:13

Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 21:13
Neither have PROPER external antenna connection
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Follow Up By: StormyKnight - Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 22:35

Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 22:35
Telstra page on maximising your coverage

Telstra N95 page

The Nokia N95 claims to have a "direct-coupled" antenna.

Direct Coupled Car Kit Web Page

& from the web page above....
A directly coupled car kit, such as the one now available with the Country phone, allows the handset to be directly connected to an antenna on the outside of the vehicle and this maximises coverage on the Next G network," Fielding added.

Hope this helps.
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Reply By: John R (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 08:28

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 08:28
I'm quite happy with the 6120. It certainly kicks the arse of the old LG TU500 for coverage, and doesn't have that annoying ascending ringtone 'feature'.

It works well with the force cradle - I get coverage in more places than I did on cdma (though I'm sure there are plenty of people with the opposite experience!).

A couple of things that don't impress me:
i. I don't particularly like the bluetooth connection for hands-free. My car kit is always on, not wired through the ignition, so there is no automatic pairing.
ii. I've replaced the plastic casing nearly half a dozen times (in less than a year) as the fastening system keeps falling apart. At least I'm always getting a different coloured phone!
iii. relatively short battery life - can be killed pretty quickly with a few long calls.

These are relatively minor issues I guess. The main issue for me - coverage - is very good.
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Reply By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:09

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:09
We have Nokia E51's in the Force car kit with a 7Db Laser antenna.

Hear is a link to the antenna:-
http://www.laser-antenna.com/product.php?product_id=63

Was up at Morgan on the River Murray over the week end and with the phone in the cradle and the other one sitting on top of the dash the one in the cradle gave about 2 bars more on signal and did not drop out, the other one would loose signal.

This type of antenna connection is the same as on glass antennas use and nobody ever complained about them.

Up in the Flinders Rangers between Hawker and Rawnsly Park you get drop out, in the car kit we got less drop outs and if it did drop out it would come back in service alot quicker.

Don't expect it to work miricals.

Use as higher gain antenna as possiable.

The Nokia 6120 is a good phone and the N95 is fantastic, the 6120 is a bit hard to use with the small keys and will not do everything a Nokia E51 will.

The N95 does ever thing but the down fall for me is it's a slide phone.

Have a good look at the Nokia E51.

When the Nokia phones goes into the cradle the phones display will still go onto screen saver and the key pad locked....very annoying.

There is a program you can get called "Lights On" that when the phone is on charge via the cradle it will turn the phones screen saver off and unlock the key pad automaticly and when removed the phone goes back to normal.

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony W (VIC) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 15:49

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 15:49
Thanks Olcoolone, great info.

Also re your coment re
"This type of antenna connection is the same as on glass antennas use and nobody ever complained about them."

Good point, never thought about that.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 18:32

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 18:32
If someone reports poor mobile coverage from a car in rural areas, the first thing Telstra checks is if they're using an on-glass antenna.

If the answer is yes, they're firstly told to change to a better antenna.

The coupling through the thick glass of a windscreen is much more of a problem than the coupling in a cradle through the thin case of a phone.
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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:54

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:54
Samsung A412 has an external antenna connection, & is a surprisingly good phone.
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Follow Up By: Member - michael P (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 16:55

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 16:55
We have just looked at the Samsung A412 as we need to switch to NextG for our upcoming trip in a few weeks. Have you found its coverage good and does it need to have the external antenna?

We've always had Nokia phones and been extremely happy but unfortunately feel the keys on the N95 are a bit small for ageing eyes!

Also looking at getting the Motorola Sat phone (after following the informative threads) and connecting to IR to be able to swap the sim card to it.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 23:25

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 23:25
That was the main reason that I didn't buy the Nokia, I tried the LG TU550 & the Sony Ericsson Z750i, but the Samsung A412 kills them both.
I can't comment on the performance with an external antenna, as I haven't tried it yet.
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 18:28

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2008 at 18:28
I've just bought the A412 and find it's coverage is very close to what's predicted on the Telstra Coverage Website.

You will always get better coverage using an external antenna. The Telstra NextG coverage map will give you a good idea.

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Reply By: Member - michael P (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:28

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:28
Thanks, Shaker and Mike - we'll go with the Samsung A412 and the external antenna - one decision made and now will concentrate on looking at satellite phone.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 at 15:06

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 at 15:06
Remember if you want to be able to send SMS then you need a 9505 or 9505a - NOT a 9500. All will receive SMS.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 11:50

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 11:50
Michael,

I have had a Samsung as a loan phone for the last 5 weeks. I wouldn't touch one with a 40 foot pole. More annoying features on a phone I have never seen.

The SMS function is attrocious and annoying to use. The menu structure is not much better. I came close to throwing it out the window a few times.

I've finally been released from the contract on my JasJam and I've chosen an N95 as it's replacement.

I'm just going to have to wait for a cradle to be released (fingers crossed). A lot of people in Gippsland I know use 6120's. Where they can make or receive calls amazes me. I was able to make & receive calls without drop out and not in the car kit on a 6120 in Talbotville of all places, and one of the guys took a work call climbing one of the spurs out of the Wonnangatta the other day.

I'm not suggesting they make the satphone redundant. But that's pretty good.

Just means I really have to turn my phone off when I go off road these days if I want to avoid work.

Dave
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Reply By: Member - michael P (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 at 16:26

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 at 16:26
Will definitely only look at the 9505 or 9505a - just need to look at the differences between the two.

Thanks again, the advice has definitely saved me time - and frustration!!
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