FUEL PRICES
Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 30, 2008 at 23:35
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Member - Roger B (VIC)
I know fuel has been done to death, but I went out to my daughter in laws place for tea tonight at 5.00pm, and passed three service stations selling unleaded for $1.549. On the way
home at 9.00pm, just 4 hours later, the same stations were selling unleaded for $1.429.
A 12cent drop in 4 hours !!!! Why is this so ????
Reply By: Peter 2 - Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 06:11
Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 06:11
It is called price fixing, is illegal but the powers that be seem to be unable to stop it.
I've been standing at the counter at the local servo when the phone call comes in to change the price to XXXXX at XXXX time.
I've also been tolf to come back later as it will be cheaper then.
But no there is nothing illegal going on!!!
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Follow Up By: Robnicko - Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 12:05
Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 12:05
How true!
The counter operator at the local servo near me actually showed me the paper that auto prints from thier cash register that is generated by head office saying what to put the price to. He also stated that if they do not obide by the notice they would be penalised by way of higher delivery prices.
ACCC open your eyes
Rob
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Reply By: The Landy - Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 09:17
Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 09:17
Roger
That is potentially the fuel discount cycle at work. Those that argue for a stop to the abrupt price changes are in fact arguing for a stop to discounting. Under that scenario you get to pay the full price all the time. Now how can anyone be better off under that arrangement?
Fuel refining and retailing is a fine margin business that is an undisputed fact.
The fact that the price is trending higher is another issue altogether, however the arguments and complaints tend to become blurred into one issue. As for the claims about price fixing numerous inquiries have highlighted this not to be the case.
Fuel is a commoditised product and consumers are indifferent to whom they buy it from. So if the guy up the road drops his price, other retailers in the same locality need to do the same to ensure continued business because fuel is a volume business, if you aren’t selling it’s costing you money. When the price support is withdrawn the reverse happens and the price rises.
The problem with getting the argument wrong is that the fix (if there is one) will also be wrong, as is the case with the new FuelWatch scheme, under which we will all pay more, on average, than we would without the scheme. In fact, the winners will be the fuel retailers, the same people everyone is complaining ripping consumers off now!
But you’re right, this has been done to death and despite the facts being clearly presented here, and elsewhere, many still think there is some great conspiracy.
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 09:23
Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 09:23
I think you are right. Under FuelWatch, which we have here in WA, that price drop mentioned in the OP would not have happened. The servo must maintain his prices for 24 hours.
Woolworths have actually come out and said that WA is their most profitable State for fuel sales because of Fuelwatch.
And now it's going nationwide.
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Reply By: Wayne's 60 - Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 19:53
Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 19:53
G'day Roger,
This may be a very simplistic view and I'm happy to stand corrected by those who know.
A fuel station will try to sell off (lower price) their fuel before their next delivery to.......
1. maximise their delivery load = lower cost.
2. resell their fuel at the new (higher price) maximising the return to the fuel company.................. you can go where ever you want with that.
I could be wrong.
Cheers,
Wayne.
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