Five top tips to cut fuel costs

Submitted: Friday, May 02, 2008 at 12:54
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This isn't rocket science and many probably exercise to some degree what the RACQ outline in its article, however I thought it might be worthwhile to put it out there in light of recent discussions.

Maybe others have other practical ideas they can post?

If we can't stop the price going up; perhaps we should focus on the things we can influence.

Five top tips
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Reply By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 13:15

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 13:15
Hi All,
I don't know how accurate this info is that was emailed to me recently but its probably relevant to this post:

Tips on Filling your Vehicles...

I don't know what you guys are paying for petrol... but here in Durban, we are also paying higher, up to 47.35 per litre. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every litre.
Here at the Marian Hill Pipeline, where I work in Durban, we deliver about 4 million litres in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.
One day is diesel; the next day is jet fuel, and petrol, LRP and Unleaded. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 litres.
ONLY BUY OR FILL UP YOUR CAR OR BIKKIE IN THE EARLY MORNING WHEN THE GROUND TEMPERATURE IS STILL COLD. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground, the denser the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening.... your litre is not exactly a litre.
In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products play an important role. A 1degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
WHEN YOU'RE FILLING UP, DO NOT SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER OF THE NOZZLE TO A FAST MODE. If you look, you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low,
middle, and high. In slow mode, you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created, while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TIPS IS TO FILL UP WHEN YOUR TANK IS HALF FULL. The reason for this is, the more fuel you have in your tank, the less air occupying its empty space. Petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation.
Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated, so that every litre is actually the exact amount.
ANOTHER REMINDER, IF THERE IS A FUEL TRUCK PUMPING INTO THE STORAGE TANKS, WHEN YOU STOP TO BUY, DO NOT FILL UP - most likely the petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.
Hope, this will help you get the maximum value for your money.

Make of it waht you will....
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 13:58

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 13:58
All of the above are myths.
Ground temperature changes very little
The evaporation from a vehicle fuel tank will not be measurable
Tanks are left to 'settle' before being used after filling.
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Follow Up By: V64Runner - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 14:56

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 14:56
I lived in Durban for 40 years before coming to Australia 30 years ago. I have never heard of jet fuel, diesel, ULP and LRP being pumped through the same pipe. That would lead to contamination of jet fuel. All the refineries are at Louis Both Airport are near The Bluff. Jet fuel is pumped into the fuel tankers and delivered to the underground tanks at the airport. The same goes for AVGAS that gets delivered to Virginia Airport. I spent 25 years flying out of Virginia airport and would see the fuel tankers arrive twice a week. So I fail to see how you can pump all the different fuels through one pipe. Also the price of Fuel in Durban is about R9 to R10 a litre not 47.35 as you stated. Even at the current exchange rate your petrol in South Africa is considerably more expensive that here in Australia.
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Follow Up By: V64Runner - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 15:03

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 15:03
Glen. You are not in Durban. Cant pull the wool over my eyes mate . You are in Queensland - your profile gives you away. You might have lived in Durban several years ago, but the other mistake you made was to say that petrol in Durban was 47.35 cents/litre. I was there in October last year for five weeks and fuel was fluctuating between R7.0 and R8.00 a litre. Sorry to blow your cover.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 15:16

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 15:16
Hi V64Runner,
Multi fuels are pumped through the sam pipelines. A special 'pig' is pushed down the line between different types of fuel. As the pig passes into a valve station detectors on the outside of the pipe note it's arrival and it can be diverted into a capture point. Even James Bond has used this method of travel :-))

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Follow Up By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 16:38

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 16:38
Glen didn't say he was in Durban. He said the article was e mailed to him & that he did not know how accurate it was. Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 17:07

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 17:07
V64Runner, barryF is absolutely correct. I never claimed to be in SA. AS stated in my reply everything after the ":" was emailed to me. All I did was copy and paste it here as I thought it was relevant to the post. I was a bit sceptical when I read it so I guess my ulterior motive was to see what others thought of these suggestions to save fuel when refueling. Are they all just myths as the first follow up (kiwi kia) says or is there a grain of truth in these suggestions.

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Follow Up By: aceman - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 18:23

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 18:23
There is very little change to ground temps beyond 50-100cm.
How many Igloo's do you see under ground.


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Reply By: Member - Serg (VIC) - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 13:49

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 13:49

This is exactly what I was talking about – lets discuss what we can influence and change. Those tips as new as cars and well known. But what do you think is worst offender in your situation?

In my case I have two things what I figured out. Forget to unlock front hubs and it drink 1 l more per 100km. Ditto to roof rack – thus now I am thinking to put easy removable one. In petrol sedan worst offender in city is aircon – a liter or more IMO. 80 vs 100 km/hr been discussed many times and it is true, but we always in hurry. Also I figured out that in EFI cars system is clever enough to shut fuel completely if you slow down in gear, because engine gets rotated by kinetic energy of the car. If you slow down in neutral, then it consumes more juice to idle engine.

Share yours.

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Follow Up By: The Landy - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 13:58

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 13:58
To be honest Serg the Landy is not very aerodynmaic the way it is set up and I have to live with that, however I do exercise sped restraint (doesn't go fast anyway) and this is probably one of the best ways to economise.

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Reply By: Shaker - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 14:10

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 14:10
One top tip to cut fuel costs .....

Slow down a little.
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Follow Up By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 14:32

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 14:32
Yep thats the biggest killer being in a hurry everywhere you go..

Keep the revs down,take your time and enjoy the perv,i mean drive.
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Reply By: troopyman - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 14:31

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 14:31
Dont drive .
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 14:38

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 14:38
And another one..
Make your vehicle as light as possible.
I see so many 4bys running around fully decked out/ full time with all the stuff needed ..when, in fact, they only get used for a 3 or 4 week trip once a year (plus the occasional weekend of course)..

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Follow Up By: traveller2 - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 15:20

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 15:20
Following on from that we worked out years ago that it is cheaper overall to keep the 4wd in the garage purely for weekends away and trips and drive an older car around town.
We regard the 4wd as our 'weekender' and in the overall schemme it is cheaper than an actual weekender.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 15:17

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 15:17
I ride a bike to work these days.
I can ride along the Linear Park bikeway to get there, so I'm busy mowing down pedestrians and dogs, rather than having cars mow me down.

Its about 5k for me, takes about 20minutes and I'm not wasting money on gym membership to do it (say $500 saved). That's 2500km per year of fuel saved (+$500), and I don't trash my motor with short trips. No parking costs (+$1500), and the vehicle doesn't get attacked by lowlife in North Adelaide.

The money saved means I can go an extra 10,000km on trips each year :-))
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Reply By: dedabato (SA) - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 17:28

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 17:28
Hi Landy, Totally agree with the fuel saving tips but No: 5 could be drastically improved by " Don't drive your car at all - full stop "

Kind regards
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 17:42

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 17:42
Hi dedabato...I think that suggestion was a bit out there, especially from a motoring organisation. I get to exercise the 'speed' one by defualt with the Landy!

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Reply By: Steve - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 20:12

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 20:12
some of these tips remind me of some "handy household hints" I read in a comic yonks ago.

eg: "to prevent your carpets wearing out, simply roll them up and put them in the loft"

tongue firmly in cheek ;))

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Follow Up By: Bware (Tweed Valley) - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 21:39

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 21:39

Or "To prevent wear on a new lounge suite, keep it wrapped in plastic."
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 10:30

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 10:30
or you could all just make a decison to stop worrying and enjoy life instead.

Forget about it. It cost what it costs - end of story. Concentrate on what's REALLY important in life and move on. Focus all that mental energy you're wasting on trying to save a few measly bucks and 'spend' it on your family and friends'll get a lot more value out of it, trust me.

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Follow Up By: Member - kevin Y (SA) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 10:45

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 10:45
right on the mark
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