Calcium Batteries

Submitted: Monday, May 12, 2008 at 10:29
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Gents,
It's time for a new Battery in the 80 series, I've had a Century for over 4 years (lead acid) and had a good run. Has anyone used a Calcium with good results. Salesman said they don't like bad vibration, example he gave was a farmer putting around a rough paddock the life would not be so good. Anyway what are your thoughts. Lead Acid or Calcium for a starting battery.

Cheers Drew
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Reply By: Member - Peter D M - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 10:52

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 10:52
hi drew,
i have a delkor calcium 27hr 710 that is over 5 years old and is still fine. i have run it down a few times and charged it up with no problems.
i was going to buy another at almost the same price as the last $160 but splurged on a fullriver gell 90 for $340 instead.

regards peter
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Follow Up By: Mainey (wa) - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 18:57

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 18:57
I replaced my calcium Delkor DC27 (recently used as a Cranking battery) on the weekend, it was over 6yo so is getting beyond what could be asked of a reliable battery this winter holiday, still starts the diesel.
(anyone local want it cost-gratis ?)

I replaced it with a genuine 670cca Cranking battery
(price not relevant)

Mainey . . .
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 11:04

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 11:04
I had a Delco Calcium in my 100 series. I just had to replace it recently after only about 2 years/50000 Km of usage.
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Reply By: keepingitreal - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 18:34

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 18:34
stick to whar you had!! I've had two Alco Calcium batteries, both recomended by salesman. One in 100 series lasted about 11mths and one in Commodore lasted only 3mths. Went back to n70zzl in cruiser and a century maintainence free for the Holden. My 2 bobs worth.

Cheers Keepingitreal
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Follow Up By: keepingitreal - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 18:36

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 18:36
Both were charged with Ctek charger and maintained before use, and also when they had Problems.
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 19:22

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 19:22
I have had Delkor M27's in my GU both as the starter battery and as the auxiliary battery. I am more than happy with them in both applications.

The aux battery was flattened when running the Engel 40 for a week with only about 1.5hrs driving in the week.

The starter battery was flattened when my daughter decided to wait in the car while the wrest of the family went on a bush walk. It was hot so she ran the fan while listening to the stereo. It was not dead but would not start the car.

Both batteries recovered and lasted over 2 years more after the abuse.

I have no hesitation in recommending them for any application.

Duncs
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Reply By: autosparky - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 20:20

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 20:20
i use delkor in both start and aux batteries however the aux went flat and took a while to charge fully 3 yrs old now
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Follow Up By: autosparky - Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 00:16

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 00:16
conventional charger got it to a charge but did not test well under load sent it with the battery rep (they use a pulse charging system and hey presto fully charged battery that loaded well, and still going) i'm happy , and not going to buy pulse type charger . going to try and keep battery within charging parameters
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 21:02

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 21:02
The calcium-calcium batteries do not charge well in older vehicles. As a result, their life is shortened when you put them into a vehicle like the 80series that wasn't designed for them.
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Follow Up By: Mainey (wa) - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 21:06

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 21:06
Phil,
You should explain 'why' they won't charge well in older vehicles...
Saves some questions later

Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 22:36

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 22:36
Mainey,
I'm no expert on Calcium batteries.
But as I understand it, the Ca-Ca wet cell batteries require a different algorithm to normal lead acid batteries. Can look at the charts on battery faq.

I learnt about this last year, when listening to a talk by the RAA's battery guru at a 4wd club meeting. My take home message was to give them a miss, unless your vehicle's charging system is designed for them, in which case, they are good technology.

A phone call to Redarc's technical people may give you a better explanation. Their latest chargers have a special algorithm just for Ca-Ca.
http://www.redarc.com.au/news/SmartCharge.pdf
http://www.redarc.com.au/news/Autumn07.pdf

The experience of many people on this thread (shorter than expected life) is common.
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Follow Up By: Mainey (wa) - Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 02:00

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 02:00
Phil,
yes, some are shorter, BUT some are definitely much longer...

My own Delkor is a Calcium Deep Cycle 80ah battery (DC27) it had previously done 4½ years running my (power hungry) fridge/freezer and then 18 months as my Cranking battery, when the 700cca Overlander died.

I replaced the Delkor last weekend because I was going to Perth anyway, so I picked up a replacement 670cca Cranking battery.

My battery system is charged @ 14.4v from a 55 Amp Alternator.

However, it has always had a "Megapulse" series (III) battery conditioner attached when used as a Deep Cycle battery
Megapulse battery conditioner
and a series (II) Megapulse battery conditioner when used as my Cranking battery.

If there must be a reason why it's lasted so long the Megapulse is it
as the charging Voltage is about 'normal' ?

The 80ah DC Delcor battery still starts the diesel, but I'm not positive it will last through winter.

Mainey . . .
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Reply By: Outbacktourer - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 22:00

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 22:00
4 yrs now on Delkor...

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Reply By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Monday, May 12, 2008 at 23:55

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 23:55
Have had Delkor, ALCO and now Supercharge in the GU4.2. All have been fine. No need to check fluid is the best part.

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Reply By: drewab - Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 06:00

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 06:00
Gents,
Thanks for all the good replies. Will stick with the Century lead acid. The salesman wasn't real confident about the life running over rough roads. We're off to Kakadu in August Via the Gulf rd from Central qld. Can't wait. Thanks again for the info.

Safe travels
Drew
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Follow Up By: Mainey (wa) - Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 08:32

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 08:32
Drew,
You say "thanks again for the info" then I believe you totally ignore it ???

If the 'salesman' is "NOT REAL CONFIDENT" about any battery on rough roads, he should get some truth into his selling spiel and tell you why (he believes) they actually fail.

I say this because after re-reading your entire thread here, I can't see any technical reason why he is correct.

All replies by *users* of Delkor Calcium batteries on this forum were happy with their battery, and I bet most have been on very rough roads.
Mine has been over the Gibb River Road a few times at speed and also various dirt roads in Kakadu and the Kimberly's as well, after 6 years you would expect it to be dead, hope your Lead Acid lasts that long.

Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Outbacktourer - Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 21:12

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 21:12
drewab, not questioning your decision, it's right for you which is all that matters. But for the benefit of the forum, in the 4 years on my Ca Delkor, my rig has been over the roughest roads in Australia. Go figure?

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 22:46

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 22:46
In 30years of desert travels in convoys of many vehicles, often on badly corrugated roads, I can only remember 2 battery failures - both on the same trip in 2005 - 40degree heat and bad corrugations. Hate to say it, but both were calcium batteries - one a 3year old Delkor.
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Reply By: drewab - Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 22:38

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 22:38
Mainey,
Three of the replies had drama's/short life from calcium batteries. Phil voiced my vehicle may not suitable for a cal battery. I don't know Phil but I have read his post's on here and LCOOL and he seems to know his stuff. The sales rep said He has had drama's with people driving over rough terrain and shortening their life. I don't have a large range of suppliers for these Batteries to talk to and get different points of view. I had good run out of the Century lead acid and was happy to try 1 again. After all it was my monry to spend.
Outback, thanks for your point of view, I agree with that.

Cheers Drew
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