Winching

Submitted: Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 15:26
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How do you set up for reverse winching. ie. winch backwards not forwards, if situation ahead is deteriorating, not just one 'bog hole'. e.g beach, unforseen swamp area, black soil
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 15:33

Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 15:33
Like this??????????Winch
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Reply By: KiwiAngler - Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 16:17

Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 16:17
I have used this method once - VERY physical but worked.

Using a Hi-Lift Jack as a winch - Video

Hi Lift jack as a winch - Video2

As I carry a Hi-Lift jack all the time it is a viable option for my setup

Actually the Hi-Lift Jack is under-rated by many - it can be used as a:

Lift
Winch
Clamp
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go to this site to view a series of Hi Lift videos showing some of these applications

Hi Lift Jack uses website

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Reply By: Member - John F (NSW) - Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 17:01

Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 17:01
I agree with Davoe and all the ?????? re the link he posted. As some others observed on that forum, all that setup will do is tear your vehicle in half.
There are others here much wiser than I, but I would assume you could use a hand winch attached to the rear ( I believe there are some who advise that it is a more useful and versatile device than the expensive, heavy and water intolerant devices many insist on bolting to the front of their vehicles).
Of course some people may get a lot of use from their electric winches but some are never used - but that is off the topic.
Do any winches have a roller attached to allow the cable to pass under the vehicle?

Regards, John.
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Reply By: TrevorDavid- Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 18:54

Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 18:54
Tirfor...........and some grunt
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 19:59

Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 19:59
I'm sure there's a winch somewhere that you can fit to your towbar instead of the square tow tongue...

Found this...

http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=1993017886&IA=WO1993017886&DISPLAY=CLAIMS

Ah.. here it is http://www.watling-towbars.co.uk/4x4_winches.html
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Follow Up By: a convict - Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 21:19

Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 21:19
Thanks for asking the question, always wondered myself how it is done.

"Watling" winch looks like very, very, handy toy. Many thanks for the link Member - Royce.

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Follow Up By: navaraman - Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 22:47

Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 22:47
A winch mounted on a towball sounds a bit dodgy to me.
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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 00:45

Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 00:45
They're not attached to the ball, but fit into the towbar as the tow tongue does.

If that's dodgy,... then towing is too..
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Follow Up By: navaraman - Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 02:31

Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 02:31
from the website,
"The Helpmate winch is then lowered onto the towball and secured with the locking pin." you can see it in pic 3
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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 11:31

Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 11:31
Ah yes.. you are right.. lowered onto towball.

Anyway... so is a trailer.. I guess that would be better, because it would allow articulation.
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Reply By: garrycol - Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 20:01

Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 20:01
I my landie FC101 - I just run the cable out through the rear and winch away - the advantage of having a mid mounted PTO winch on the side of the chassis that works forward or back:)
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 23:11

Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 23:11
Hi garrycol,
Shows the advantage of having a real 4x4 rather than those unmentionable pretend ones.
Shame about the V8's fuel consumption though.

I once had a Landy109 fitted with a front PTO capstan winch, would outperform any electric one available at the time. A couple of suitably designed pulley blocks in the right places and you could pull from any direction, including backward.

Disco.
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Follow Up By: navaraman - Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 23:36

Saturday, May 24, 2008 at 23:36
"A couple of suitably designed pulley blocks in the right places and you could pull from any direction, including backward.'

Aye, they'd be real handy on a Landy.

Patrolman Pat
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Reply By: samsgoneagain - Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 19:10

Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 19:10
look up the warn pullzall. cordless winch
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 21:24

Sunday, May 25, 2008 at 21:24
I have a patrol , with synthetic rope , and the angles of thr winch mount I made allow the rope to be just thrown under the car and it winches backwards as on the Patrol the rope underneath only touches the two axles.

The above reduces the winch pulling power to about 1/2 but this is still a lot more than a hand winch and a hell of a lot easier.
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