Hid Lights

You are dead right Howesy!! Retro-fit HID HEADLIGHTS that do not come with the reflector lens are illegal!!

The are not able to be diffused correctly using the original lenses due to the length of the globe and where the light emits from with HIDs.

I will see if I can find a picture that illustrates the 'glare' from retro-HIDs.

Matt.

Just checked out the one piece jobs on Hidrus.com.au ..... wonder how good they are?
Anyone out there tried them ?

$700 for a set I hope not each? or maybe they are.

mmmmm $1500 for light upgrade? gee they dont make it easy...........

The kit form the ebay seller is $130 for H4 Hi/Lo, a PAIR!.
Kits for driving lights are around $80!!

Have also purchased the HID kit from same seller, very happy with the kit. Good price and looks to be a good kit. Should of taken Peter2s advice and got the Hella inserts though. I will definitely be ordering them on Monday.

Anyone know if there is a difference between the Narva inserts and the Hella ones. I know there is about a $60 difference so would assume that the Hellas are best.

I'd reckon there would be if you did scientific type testing.Get a set and if they are no good take em back and swap for Hella's

ILLEGAL????

So are tyres that are more than 30mm larger diameter larger than manufacturer specs;
So are reversing camera screens that don't turn off when not in reverse gear.
So are DVD players for rear seat passengers unless you have blacked-out windows in the rear
So are springs that give you more than 50mm height rise.
So are exhaust systems that have been modified to 3" and don't still have the "required" amount of mufflering
So are modifications to the EGR valving (which many 3 litre Patrol owners are closing off for performance enhancements)
So is having driving lights on top of your roof (unless you only use for off-road)
So is having a bullbar with anything protruding forward
So is having a large antenna on your bullbar
So is having a vehicle that exceeds the manufacturers GVM/GCM

Looks like I'm off to jail for a very long time, cos I reckon I've broken almost all those laws at one time or another.....

What I'm getting at is that it is only illegal if you get some smart-@rse copper that you proceed to upset big-time. Or maybe we're just lucky here in SA that the boys in blue are too busy catching real criminals, to bother with law-abiding citizens who like to see where they're going when they're driving long distances in the outback.....

Rant now over.....(it's just that I get tired of being told how many laws I'm breaking). Sorry

Roachie

But isn't it fun having HID's....you forgot one thing Roachie, it is ILLEGAL fitting a Boeing 747 flight deck into a Chev powered Nissan Patrol too.

Hey guys if you want to no how I ended up with my lights just email me raazorj@reachnet.com.au saves me looking back thru threads and yes those lights from hidrus are a pair price and they are a projector type lense probaly similar to the lights i had on my BA Falcon a few years ago.They reckon they can be fitted successfully with hid globes
because they use seperate high/low globes H1 type.
New to this forum well haven't used for couple of years think I might join soon doesn't seem to have a lot of slinging matches anymore.
see ya Ray.

I thought I was addressing the question raised by Raazor! You are obviously having a bad?? day Roachie as your response is not the normal measured wise and helpful reply which I generally agree with and look forward to reading. I did say "IF you are interested". Since you raised it you may find: "What I'm getting at is that it is only illegal if you get some smart-@rse copper that you proceed to upset big-time." is the best case scenario. The worst case scenario may be no insurance if your blinding headlamps dazzle an oncoming vehicle, a civil action should someone get injured or reduced third party cover or if it bothers you at all a serious injury to asnother person or worse which you will have to live with for the rest of your life. The ADR's etc are for the benefits and safety of all road users and to make list of all the ones you have brtoken and brag about it like it was a badge of honour is what gives all 4x4 owners, including the responsible ones, a bad name.

G'day Blown4by,
Sorry if I hit a raw nerve mate, it wasn't my intention.

I may not have explained myself very well, but what I was getting at is this......

If we (any of us) are fair dinkum enough to go over our own vehicle with a fine tooth comb, I'm almost sure you will find several things that won't be technically legal. I made the list of my known "issues" just to show that I am well aware of my own shortcomings. I didn't intend for it to read like a badge of honour; sorry if it came across like that.

As for blinding other driver's, I would just like to say that I do a reasonable amount of night driving and am pleased to be able to report that I have my HIDs adjusted in such a way that I don't get "flashed" by any oncoming drivers.

As for insurance, I am such a cynical old barstool that I realise the only hope I've ever getting a claim approved is if my rig is either stolen or burnt etc. If I have an accident, the bean counters will go over it (as I alluded above) with the fine-tooth comb and it won't take them long to decide that they won't payout because I was overweight (or one of the other listed items applies).

I challenge anybody who reads this to put their own reasonably well set-up rig*** (see below for definition) willingly in front of an authoritive-type person (RTA engineer, or a Police Crash Investigator etc) and have them give it a clean bill of health.

*** My definition of a reasonably well set-up rig would include:
# long range tank
# dual wheel carrier
# roof rack
# dual battery system
# steel bullbar
# winch
# cargo drawer system
# fridge
# cargo barrier
etc etc

Stick all that stuff into most common rigs (landcruiser, patrol, pajero etc etc) and I think you'll find you're illegal once you load-up the people and food/clothes etc.

Once again, please accept my apologies for my earlier rant and I hope this follow-up hasn't re-fuelled the situation; but rather that it may have defused it a bit.

Cheers mate

Roachie

Yeh no worries Roachie. There was no need for an apology but since you have offered it I will accept it anyway. I understand (better now) where you are coming from and agree pretty much with all you have said. Also thanks for taking the time to respond in the manner that you have. That to me says a lot about a bloke and I am glad we are pretty much "on the same page" because as I said I do read your posts with interest and have respect for your opinion and input. Maybe it was the wrong time of the month for both of us:-) I just get a bit jacked off when I drive to and from work every day and all these "tools" drive around in clear weather with their (misaligned) fog lamps pointing all over the place, including in broad daylight, either thinking "stuff everyone else I blind" or they are just too dumb to even know what the fog lamp litle tell tale lamp on the dash is for or even worse how to turn them off, etc, etc. Catchya later