Fog Light fines

The problem being..what constitutes a fog light??
Some cars have those mega-brite rear red 'fog' lights, and they seem to stay on all the time?? Pain in the butt when following on the highway.

boys, in nsw these are the laws, both illegal use of front & rear fog lights will cause you to loose 2 demerit points of your licence and fines are $79 each of your hard earned johnny cash!

The front fog light must -
a) show white or yellow light,
b) be a low-beam light,
c) be capable of being switched-on and “OFF” independently of any headlights,
d) be fitted so that the light from it does not reflect off the vehicle into the driver’s eyes, and
e) only be used in inclement weather.
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217 Using rear fog lights
(1) The driver of a vehicle fitted with a rear fog light must not
operate the fog light unless the driver is driving in fog or other
hazardous weather conditions causing reduced visibility.
Offence provision.
(2) In this rule:
rear fog light means a light fitted to a vehicle to make it more
easily visible from the rear in fog.
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(3) Also, a driver driving during the day in fog, or other hazardous
weather conditions causing reduced visibility, may drive
without the headlights of the driver’s vehicle operating if the
vehicle is fitted with front fog lights and those lights are
operating effectively and are clearly visible.
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hope it helps,
they give me the poo's when there used & dont need to be!
cheers,

It's funny how most of the ones that drive with their 'wanker lights' on at night, never seem to have use them on foggy mornings!

As for the high intensity rear lights, the same fine applies.

Like so many issues relating to road safety, vehicle roadworthiness, vehicle modifications, road rules etc, why do so many people not bother to check their facts before entering into a discussion, make negative comments or for that matter any comments on the subject. Gee it's not all that difficult to research and find the specific information. For example, on the subject of rear FOG LIGHTS......

Why not check Vic Roads Vehicle Standards Information (Lamps & Lighting Link ), Complemented by Australian Design Rules A.D.R. link, Page 9 left hand column, 5th item down.

ALso and if still unclear, have a look at page 55 Vic Road, Rules and Responsibilities Vic Roads link (it's a PDF) it is quite specific and states...."You must not operate rear fog lights unless driving in fog or hazardous weather conditions".

If still in doubt or uncertain, the RACV web site also has some very clear/concise information on the subject RACV link

This matter went through the sprockets on this forum recently, & then, as now, stiired the anger of most respondents. Then & now
I took the opposite view. I've never been blinded by low set
foglights or ever had a flash in response to mine being on. Yes I was reminded of the law by a young cop as he breath tested me.
I said I use them to make my grey car more visible to other road
users, & if he wanted to give me a ticket I would defend it in Court. You would win says young cop, & I dont need the
paperwork. I, along with about 50% of those using the Hume
continue to use them, without incident. Now if you want to have a moan about those who dont dip high beam or the twits that hit you with a row of roof mounted spotties you have my full support........oldbaz.

To be honest, they don't really bother me during the day.
I mean, when you see cars with them on during the bright daylight coming the other way, what are you most likely wearing on your face when you are driving? Sunglasses - to reduce glare!!! And if you're not, then bright sunny days don't bother you, so what's the BIG deal? Too trivial to get worked up over.

That being said, it is interesting to note that SS's & XR6's have foglights that seem brighter than other brands.

Interesting that the law states to use only in adverse weather. Wouldn't using them in the wet create more of a problem of road reflection than if used in the dry?

It's more of a problem up here with cars that have 1 headlight aimed too high.
I've just had new suspension fitted to my d/cab, and with the ensuing increase in ride height, will now check the dipped headlight beam for glare.

cheers

Unfortunately they are being used as Yuppy Lights. I don't think I have ever seen a real 4WD using them inappropriately but the hoon mobiles seem to use them religiously, it's like turn on all the appliances, I need to be seen.!

Yeah good call...