spin the axle?

Submitted: Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 11:41
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what is it? lol
i have been looking for an offroad camper like a eagle outback etc..
i just got off the phone to a salesman who told me that there isint much difference between a Jayco Eagle Outback and an Onroad model. Is there??

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Bretto
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Reply By: Grizzle - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 11:55

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 11:55
Chassis is bigger and Outback has shockers, Outback normally has bigger wheels as well. Body is the same I have a Swan Outback. A friend of mine bought the Eagle Onroad and then underslung the axle. Works really well.

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Follow Up By: Member - Bretto&Laus(WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 11:57

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 11:57
sorry if i seem like a newb, but what is "underslinging the axle" ?

thanx m8
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Follow Up By: RosscoH - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:14

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:14
Underslinging the axle is putting it under the springs instead of on top, did it with our Jayco Flamingo and put 15in wheels on it, basicly the same now as an outback, and haven't got the heavy outback springs to shake it to pieces.

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Follow Up By: Member - Bretto&Laus(WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:18

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:18
THANKYOU!
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:02

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:02
Bretto,

seeing you're in WA, have you looked at the Jayco for sale in EO's Trader section?

Jayco for sale

Might be worth looking at.

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Follow Up By: Member - Bretto&Laus(WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:04

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:04
will check now

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Follow Up By: Member - Bretto&Laus(WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:07

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:07
Yes mate, Have seen that, nice Home! Over our budget by $8000 though.

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Reply By: Member - Bretto&Laus(WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:12

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:12
All good guys, but what does Underslung axles actually intail/mean?

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Reply By: Grizzle - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:14

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:14
The axle sits on top of the leaf spring. It is just a case of undoing the 'U" Bolts and putting the axle underneath the leaf springs. Not too hard a job. You may have to refit the small plates that space the axle away from the spring. (A couple of hours work all up, 4 max). We went through Oodnadatta Track, Merenie Loop etc and he had no trouble with it. Definately worth looking at if you are on a budget.

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Reply By: Wizard1 - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:19

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:19
Sounds as though the salesman doesn't know !@#$ from clay about his own product.

The Outback, altough internally the same, has 7 leaf shackle (not slipper) off road springs, underslung axle with parallel bearings, 15 inch wheels with off road LT tyres (as opposed to 14 inch) and shockies. This results in a higher ground clearance.

It also has a reinforced rear bumper, jerrycan holder on the A frame and checker plate. Here is the link to the website, which is where you probably should have gone first.

Jayco

Go to camper trailers the Outback range
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Follow Up By: Member - Bretto&Laus(WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:33

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:33
crikey m8, i think i help build the site, been there done that, they dont offer much in the way of pure "get into the nitty gritty"

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Follow Up By: Wizard1 - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:42

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:42
If this in't nitty gritty (cut and paste from the website) what else do you want to see what the additional feature are?

OUTBACK RANGE FEATURES
› 150mm x 50mm RHS main chassis members
› 125mm x 50mm RHS "A" frame
› Longer ALKO corner stays
› Underslung axle (Improved ground clearance)
› Bumper bar
› ALKO off-road electric brake magnets
› Aluminium checker plate finish on sides


› 12v internal power point
› Moulded wheel arch surrounds
› Jayco mud flaps
› ALKO outback leaf springs
› Double step
› Shock absorbers with guards
› Jerry can holder on "A" frame
› 15 x 7 alloy wheels with 235/75R15 tyres


OPTIONS
› 16" wheels (265/70R16 or 235/7OR16)
Max size 780mm (d) x 275mm (w)
› Shockproof swivel coupling

NOTE
› Overall length including bumper bar & spare
wheel increased by 155mm
› Overall height increased by 250mm
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Follow Up By: Member - Bretto&Laus(WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:47

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:47
No need to do a Jerry Springer on me Buddy.

Thank you all the same though
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Follow Up By: Wizard1 - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 13:02

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 13:02
Firstly you ask what the difference is between the standard and outback models. Then you give a reply with something about "I helped build the site and nitty gritty". What does that mean, that you looked at the Jayco site and couldn't find the info? What?

Then some smart!@#$ diatribe about Jerry Springer. What does that mean?

None of it makes sense, not the behaviour, its just rude, but what you've actually said.

Perhaps you could take the feedback as given rather thanattitude. Funny reaction toward someone that has given the info you asked for.

By the way I'm not your Buddy.
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Reply By: Member - Bretto&Laus(WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:29

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:29
It seems to me like the $5000 - $8000 difference between Outback and On Road, lies entirely with some easy mods. From the responses i have got here which would take $400 tops, not including a good set of all terrain rubber.. my goodness, I am nearly sold on an on roader for sure!

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Follow Up By: Crackles - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 18:57

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 18:57
Bretto if you're towing it with your Commodore ute then the on road model most likely will serve you well but if you think flipping the axle over is going to turn it into an offroad model then you are seriously mistaken. After a few thousand km's on rough dirt roads you'll find out the hard way why the chassis is thicker, why they put protection around the van, why the springs are beefed up, matched with shocks & why the brakes were upgraded. The great feeling you get saving a few thousand dollars could soon disappear if you're broken down on the side of the road. It's not just a matter of flipping the axle over either with brake lines to relocate, longer corner jacks / steps required & any annexe simply wouldn't reach.
Rather than bag Wizard for highlighting issues that you simply don't wont to hear, you possibly should take them on-board. 2 of my friends have been recovered on minor 2wd outback roads, one costing $2000 & the other $3500 & both caused by total suspension failure.

Cheers Craig.................
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Reply By: kennym - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:21

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:21
I have a 2005 outback hawk and a friend of mine has a 2005 on road eagle. Same size, just different layouts. We often compare notes. He too is toying with the idea of over slinging the axle to try and get som extra ground clearance, as it is one of his main grips. The other alarming thing he comments on is the lack of stiffness in the chasis. He says he has to be carefull not to over tighten the stabliser arms or else he cant close his door properly. You cant fix the chasis with a few hundrew dollars. I have no regrets at all getting the outback while he has some regretes about not going that way. I think to go the on road version you need to be fairly sure that it will do very little travelling go off the black top regardless of the mods you do.

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Reply By: Member - Bretto&Laus(WA) - Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 11:49

Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 11:49
Yeah definatley, point taken Ken.
Please accept my apologies Wizard for my comments previously, I was out of line big time.
thanks for all the advice, I will take it on board and will do alot more research

cheers
Bretto
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