A Great Site Ruined?

Correction

Doug FNQ.

For goodness' sake Jim,

you've just done what Steve was commenting on.

And I probably have too by putting in this Follow Up.

Why not just let things drop.

Jim,

Pretty brave when Doug can't defend himself. But then again, you've moved up to attacking the living rather than the dead in previous incidents (Peter Brock/Steve Irwin).

Despite all that has been spoken of this incident over the past few days, you still can't get your facts right.

Put a sock in it and let sleeping dogs lie.

Al,

Facts?

Doug isn't here by his own choice.

What have I got wrong? Doug got moderated, had a tanty and ran away.

What has Brock got to do with this?

I must add.

On the Brock issue: it has been proven he was an Adulterer and a Woman Basher.

You may choose to hold that type of individual in high regard but I don't.

We have different values.

I'm proud of mine.

Jim.

Jim

Brocky's gone now, let his soul rest in peace.

Dick,

The dead are entitled to the truth. Nothing more.

Their deeds may haunt them.

Brock was not a decent man.

Jim.

Jim, I didn't take a lot of notice of Doug's posts because unless you agreed with him he considered you wrong and would not even consider an alternative view. Unfortunatel, from several of your recent posts, I hold you in the same vein as Doug. Perhaps you would do well to have a tranty as well and leave.
You made a statement that you have been a member for over three years, does that give you any additional rights, I think not.
I have been a member for nearly 6 years, so I must have more rights than you. I think my "rights" score is zip so yours must be minus zip
Have a nice break
Des

sheesh guys take a little time out please

Des,

Thanks for the feedback. When I get a spray from those I hold in low regard I respond accordingly. I do not hold you in low regard, quite the opposite. I'll take the feeedback on board.

Perhaps it is time for me to relax a little a take a lower profile.

Geoff has also chimed in, in his diplomatic way. I'm getting the message.

Thanks chaps,

Jim.

Hi Steve,

I think you hit the nail on the head with your comment about tolerance. It does seem to be missing from the real world and perhaps it is reflected on the postings here. Sure enough, the intolerant in the real world must make a percentage of the people in here.

I think this forum/site has many genres of users. There's travellers, 4wd travellers, rednecks, extreme 4wdrivers (those who go into comps, like driving over high rocks etc), retirees (or grey nomads), ex defence personelle, historians, campers, and those just just may want to learn a bit about this great nation. With that kind of mix there's bound to be a few conflicts.

Lets us fix society before we try and fix the problems of this forum. Though I'm allowed to have a winge occasionally. :))

Cheers
Alan

:o)

When there's rubbish on the tele you'll find me out in the shed...

Dave

Shane,

that's one beautiful baby.

First grandchild? Our little grandson, our first, is coming up to 12 months old in July.

Lucky little tyke looks just like me !!!

(I just thought this sort of Troll behaviour was better than the other Troll in this Thread)

This is my 10 month old son,they say apple's don't fall far from the tree (yes I AM saying I'm every bit as beautiful ).

Shane

Hi Shane,

All sweet with the mis-interpreted thread but if you look at my next one, I really did learn from the previous and clarified that I was not "attacking" one party or another. Even at my age, I can still learn new tricks LOL!!!

I really try to only respond to a topic a) if I think I have the answer, b) if I have an opinion on the topic good or bad but will not be intolerant of others opinions or c) stirring the pot with someone I call a friend. All of which brings a smile to my face for different reasons. Love the site, gain heaps of info and wild horses couldn't drag me away from it now.

"apple's don't fall far from the tree" Yeah sure hehehe. (to others reading this bit....see reason c) in responding to a topic)

Cheers mate.
Trevor.

Steve & Paula,

I reckon if all were like me this would be a wonderful site, but because all posters are not, I think it is about as perfect as one can get :-))) diversity in responses is the key to getting the answer one requires. Often more than one way to complete a task but only one way that will suit you, so the more that offer advice the more chance you have of finding the answer best suited to you.

Keep enjoying the site, keep overlooking the responses that annoy you and keep the scorecard in favour of the good guys over the ratbags. (Must admit to never having met an EO ratbag member in real life, I have found all I have met to be wonderful people, willing in any way to help...how good is that I reckon.)

Hope to read and respond to many more of your threads for a long time to come.

Best regards,
Trevor.

Something i forgot to mention ....I still think this is a great site

HEAR HEAR....Borgy's right.....stay with it Steve......I love this site and sure, they can dish it up and out....but suck it up lad and DON"T GO...we are all different and so we don't blend that well....but think like this....we all in a way need each other, warts and all, because we share a common INTEREST mate...I don't think that in a tight situation, there would not be one person on this site who would not reach out a helping hand to you if you needed it......Because that's the way we are.

I cant bloody help myself...wasnt gonna comment....

Spot on Phillip

Hear hear!

It's not uncommon to wade through upwards of 50 replies and follow-ups to find maybe 5 that are relevant to the post. This means that if I open that thread every time something new was added, I have to wade through the chat (or should that be chit) 50 times to find the 5 that are relevant.

It's a bit like going in to a classroom and having people up the back making it hard to hear or just distracting. Or going to a movie and having people talking all the way through it.

I think it is inconsiderate, especially as there is a Member Message option provided. They could always use emails or the phone if only interested in chatting.

Steve the thing i love about this site mate , is occasionally we get on here and say things that stir the pot or whatever, but at the end of the day i reckon most of us would still go out of our way to help each other or even have a beer with each other...im probably one of the ones you are talking about in this post , cause yes i have been known to stir the pot.....But just take a look at the post i just put up a few mins ago, and thats what this site is partly about ...Still being good mates when it counts.....

Cheers...one very happy Borgy

Borgy, there's stirring and then there's being bloody-minded... I was a member here and I let it lapse because I just couldn't be bothered with the bloody minded few - I chose not to sook about it (and that IS NOT a stab at the thread starter), I just withdrew my financial support and now only pop in from time to time - this used to be my home page...

You sir are a stirrer in the true sense but I wouldn't call you bloody minded, you stir in a manner which incites a bit of friendly push and shove that is clearly between 'friends' and IMO suitable for this site - as the saying goes, "all work and no play make Jack a dull boy" Get on board, have a laugh, poke a bit of fun and learn a thing or two...

*runs away to read ALL of Borgy's previous posts, just in case :p *

Mick.
A great photo.
I can't wait for July 6 to hitch up the camper & head out west again.
Cheers.
Vince

haha, and every time I read one of your posts, the voice of Klingon Lieutenant Commander Wolf speaks out to me :)))

Onya Trekkie.......I agree....

Equinox - He was not as handsome as me

PERSONNEL FILE: Worf

Last Starfleet Rank: Lieutenant Commander
Current position: Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS; previously, strategic operations officer, Deep Space Nine and first officer, U.S.S. Defiant
Full Name: Worf
Date of birth: Earth equivalent: Dec. 9, 2340
Place of birth:Qo'noS,Klingon Empire
Parents: Son of Mogh; foster parents Sergey and Helena Rozhenko
Education: Starfleet Academy, 2357-61
Marital status: Widowed: married to Jadzia Dax, 51247.5 (died 2374)
Children: One son, Alexander, born 43rd day of Maktag (Earth equivalent 2366)
Quarters: Currently relocating to Qo'noS from residence at DS9; formerly, Enterprise Deck 7, Sect. 25B

... which reminds me that I need to make time for the permanent three level Star Trek experience at the Hilton next time I am in Vegas! ;-)

Wow, Trekkie !!

Maybe it's time that I came out and admitted to being a big fan of Sex and the City !!

There's a marathon on Fox right now...

Gotta go.

PRICELESS.......thankyou Motherhen

Here! Here! totally agree Motherhen

Good on you David , well said, and no im not sucking up ...lol..

Cheers.......Borgy

Well said David and Michelle but may I interject slightly.

The regulars that know each other and are comfortable having a dig or banter are part of the 'community' that keeps me coming back here. If their 'antics' to EACH other sometimes seem over the top...it is usually only to 'others' looking in.
By all means, if someone is just plane rude or insulting without provocation then moderate but let the banter from friends continue.
I believe half the problems are the 'Holier than thou' visitors that feel the need to interject into conversations or discussions and wield their large stick when it doesn't concern them create the issues they preach to prevent.

As always I guess common-sense (not all that common) has to prevail and we ignore trouble makers but I'd hate to lose some of the community aspect due to 'over' moderation.

Again thanks for the site and keep up the good work

All the best

Matt.

Matt,

Not worries there, I am not talking about over moderation just asking those involed to curb it a little or at least try to make it so that others reading will at least know that they know each other. Anyway positive, onward and upward..... Have a great day in this very bad WA weather today.

David, Is Borgy one of these "bad" posters ???????

Yeah David....am i ??? ...lol

Cheers.......Borgy

Ah, no not any more based purely on your initial response to my post above - lol. Have a good one.

To some, this forum is just a place they visit and get some info from and to see what is going on around the place.

To others, this site isn't just a 4x4/camping/etc website. It is a place where they catch up with mates or get info that may influence their decision relating to whatever they are after. This may be their only medium to communicate their thoughts or whatever to like minded people.

I liken it to going to the local pub. If someone at the pub started saying something they didn't like, they wouldn't just get up and leave, why should they? They should be able to enjoy a drink as they like in good company and maybe politely try and sort it out.

In saying that, if you get upset over the slightest thing maybe you shouldn't be at the pub!!!

Just a different angle to think about...

Mainey,

I agree with your sentiments. However - I see this as a great site and raised this concern to express my opinion and hopefully do something about it. When I look back I would have been a full member for four years and general member for a period before that. I joined mainly because I wanted to contribute to the future of the site. Walking away would not ensure the future of the site. (I never indicated that I would leave in my post BTW.) To carry your analogy a little further, if I receive meal that is not up to par and don't inform the business of the same, there is no chance for them to do something about it. By making concerns public, things can be improved!

Steve

Steve,
That is the sole reason I started my post with the following words:
""With no offence meant or implied to any previous (or future) poster""

:-) {as I smile and continue to type}

It was clearly not directed at you, but in general
at the few who don't want to abide by the EO forum rules and regulations.

Mainey . . .

Thanks Mainey - I understood this and didn't take any exception to your comments.

My response was only an explanation of why I started this post. As I stated at the beginning of my post - I agree with you.

Steve

You got it in one Troopy...Short and sweet , well said!!

Cheers......Borgy

This is by far the most aggressive forum I use, people here have a tendency of picking small things out of a post and and highlighting it and blow it out of proportion.

If you do say something wrong on here instead of telling you you wrong and the right way is this...... the tell you your full of bleep and you no nothing about what your talking about, I think this is very unique with this forum.

Like all things there are many ways of doing something and just because you might do it one way doesn't mean it's the wrong way.

People have a hard time of understanding logic.

G'day Steve

Do you consider yourself a stirrer???

Cheers......Borgy

Steve...you must get a life....you cannot get rid of the people you don't like...you have to learn to live with them in all walks of life...lighten up mate

thanks for such profound advice - I'll see what I can do

pity you chose to ignore the two positive comments - perhaps you need to lighten up too

Steve

Yes i admit at times i have stirred the pot , so to speak, and i will admit that to anyone, But for you to get on here and say, "Pity one or two persistent stirrers are still allowed free rein."As far as im concerned is hypocritical.....yes i do read most posts on here , and think you should perhaps go back and read all of your own.....Oh thats right , you cant do that can you?? Because as i recall one of yours was deleted the other day!!

Cheers......Borgy

well that made me laugh matey - I wasn't referring to you at all - I haven't even noticed you on the forum before....but if you have nothing better to do than "stir the pot" good luck to you

In over eight years of occasional posting on here, I have had three, let's say robust dialogues, one, with each of three different people all of whom still post regularly

If I've had a post deleted, it's news to me. I don't go through my or anyone else's posts on here

I'll make this my last comment on this thread because it's the kind of pettiness that has driven so many away and does the site no favours

cheers Wayne. I really don't think there's much at all wrong with the site. I do participate in others but I like the quick response and archives on this one best. There are some great posters on here and I've learned a good few things from them. I'd rather dwell on the positive side of it and say that for me, it's the best site of it's kind around. Just thought it a bit sad that one of our best characters (IMHO, of course) has buggered off.