Best 4WD for towing.
Submitted: Monday, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:33
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milliemack01
Hi,
im new here and am after some help. I will be getting my P's(VICTORIAN P's) in November of this year and this 4WD will be my first car. I have horses and need a vehicle that can comfortably tow 1 horse (approx 670kg) and my double extended float (approx 780kg) with the option of towing another horse if need be (most likely over the 500kg mark).
I have been told to look at the toyota landcruiser 80 series. Do these come in a V6 model or a V8. If i was to get a V8 I would need to apply for an exemption from the new P Plater rules here in Vic (im pretty sure the weight to power ratio no longer exists for the P plate system i will fall under)
Would anyone please be able to give me the towing MAX of the 80 series landcruiser.
Also... auto or manual best for towing? and Im interested in hearing about LPG and towing with a dual fuel. Any
feedback would be great.
Reply By: _gmd_pps - Monday, Jun 09, 2008 at 12:43
Monday, Jun 09, 2008 at 12:43
We have two trucks for towing. One is a US GMC V8 Diesel and is most likely out of your range. The other is a Nissan Patrol 4800 Petrol V6 on LPG. We tow a dual horsefloat regularly with the Nissan and it works ok. No comparison to the GMC but it works ok.
I also occasionally tow my boat (2t) with my 1986 Mercedes 280 SE and this also works when you don't have many hills. It has leveling hydraulics though and automatically keeps the butt up.
If you start out and don't need much off road capability an old Merc will do
well. You get them for $5000 and less and they go forever if treated properly. We have several Mercs at the moment (300Td, 200C, 280SE). With the current price development I would stick with a gas converted vehicle. We got the Nisssan for 25k in good nick until it became our dog and horse car :)) .. lol. I personally would not even go close to a Toyota. Until recently we had a Camry station and it was the dearest car in parts.
good luck
gmd
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Follow Up By: Mainey (wa) - Monday, Jun 09, 2008 at 16:48
Monday, Jun 09, 2008 at 16:48
from memory... hic... when your on "P" plates it's not cool to be seen in anthing like an older Benz, not enuff noise or fast enuff and too heavy on fuel...
Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:29
Tuesday, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:29
Gday,
Yes..the old "1986 Mercedes 280 SE" might do the job, but personaly Id lean toward an "Erickson sky crane", unless of course thats out of your budget. And in that case what about a old "Bell 214B" with a 8000 lbs lifting capacity...garunteed to keep your load level without the use of hydraulics....just gravity.
BUT
If that still is out of you budget.
Try what "Crackles" said below...sounds like a more sensible reply to me.
LOL
Cheers
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Monday, Jun 09, 2008 at 15:14
Monday, Jun 09, 2008 at 15:14
Australia has some odd ideas about the size/power of vehicle you need to tow.
I towed a twin axle, 24 foot caravan, loaded with all the stuff a family of four takes, all over Europe including over the Swiss/Italian Alps (up to 8000 feet) in a Rover 2.6l in-line six cylinder auto vehicle which produced about 130bhp iirc. It struggled at bit at 8000' but that was because internal combustion engines loose about 30% of power at that altitude. Can't remember what the rig weighed but it would have been at least as much as your 2t.
I am unconvinced you need to spend the extra cash it takes to both purchase and maintain a large 4WD.
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Monday, Jun 09, 2008 at 17:20
Monday, Jun 09, 2008 at 17:20
Mike makes a good point.
You can pick up a good AU or preferably BA Falcon running on LPG for the cost of a much older, worn 4wd.
Just
check its towing limit, I think the BA is good for 2300 kg with a weight ditributing hitch, but don't rely on my memory.
Also a much nicer thing to drive on a day to day basis.
Jim.
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Follow Up By: G.T. - Tuesday, Jun 10, 2008 at 15:52
Tuesday, Jun 10, 2008 at 15:52
Stay away from BA`s . Au`s are O.K. BA`s have diff issues.
Regards G.T.
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