Self inflating mattress in a swag – advice sought
Submitted: Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 19:06
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Mike Harding
As night follows day so the foam mattress which came with my swag, a few years ago, has compacted - therefore it’s time to replace it with a self inflating (or better – if there is such a thing?) one.
The major requirement I have is that the self inflater will roll up “in the one go” inside the swag as the foam one did. ie. I do not wish to remove the mattress – deflate it – then roll up the swag – I wish to do the whole thing in one go.
Currently I’m looking at the Roman Moon Mat series, especially the 80mm super de-lux (or whatever they call it?) or their “4WD” mat with built in pillow – cost is not an issue. Ease of use and comfort certainly is! My experience with “normal” 100mm “4WD” mats suggests there is no way I could roll them up into a small enough size inside the swag.
Most suggestion gratefully received :)
Mike Harding
mike_harding@fastmail.fm
Reply By: Holden4th - Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 19:18
Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 19:18
Your major problem would be trying to stop the mattress from reinflating if you couldn't access the screw top valve that all SI mattresses use to stop air coming back to reinflate. The majority of sefl inflators I've seen have these at the top of the mattress and therefore are not accessible after you roll it up inside the swag.
After many years of 'swagging' it, the cold seeping up through the ground finally got the better of me and I went to my local camping store for advice. As I never sleep outside (my tent is enough thank you) they recommended a self inflator and I got a Coleman 120mm job. The insulation it provided from the cold compared to my swag was quite exceptional and I'm now a dedicated fan of this form of camping bed. They are so comfortable and take up the same space as a swag.
So forget the swag, just get a self inflator. If you want to sleep under the stars then you'll probably have to pack them separately
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 23:27
Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 23:27
It's not an issue.
I've used
mine with a Thermarest about 30mm thick and an Exped Deluxe mat that's 100mm thick.
The 100 is too thick and puts you too close to the canvas at the foot end of a dome style swag - mines a Darche Super Dome.
The thermarest mats are sooooo comfortable. I lived on my 30mm mat in the swag for six weeks and loved it.
Dave
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 23:29
Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 23:29
Just to clarify my comment "It's not an issue" - I meant leaving the valve open when rolling the swag up and packing it then it reexpanding.
Dave
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Saturday, Jun 14, 2008 at 07:04
Saturday, Jun 14, 2008 at 07:04
One thing I have done, I use a ground sheet under my swag..
I went to a Clarke's (spelling) Rubber store, and purchased 1 ( one ) sheet of 1" thick waterproof
pool rubber. It's looks like that sky blue hiking ground sheets, but it's 10 times tougher and it fits under my swag.
So my aching bones are relaxed and warm, but which self inflating thermo mattress..help also !!
Can anyone help me ??
Cheers all
Bucky
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Follow Up By: Trev (SA) - Saturday, Jun 14, 2008 at 16:56
Saturday, Jun 14, 2008 at 16:56
I will probably get jumped on for this but I can't understand why people put groundsheets, tarps etc under their swags. I've seen it so many times. I imagine they are trying to protect the swag and I do acknowledge that if you are in prickle country it can be a better surface to step out onto. I gather your issue Bucky is comfort and fair enough.
What I laugh about though is what happens when it rains. My swag is quite waterproof and I have spent many nights out in storms etc. The water just runs off and soaks into the sand / ground next to it. If you have a waterproof tarp under you however, the runoff does not soak into the ground but forms a lovely
pool of water for you to lie in!
One option, although I can never be bothered, is to use shadecloth which will still let the water soak through. The prickles are likely to get caught in it I suggest though.
Just my 2c worth
Trev
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Saturday, Jun 14, 2008 at 19:07
Saturday, Jun 14, 2008 at 19:07
Mike
Apart from the comfort and the warmth I get from my ground sheet, I also protect the base of my swag.
Camped up in some pretty dodgy
places over the last 5 - 6 years.
And if it does rain,
well I am a little higher than the ground around me. Seriously though with me its more about comfort & warmth.
Some of my mates have swung over to those aluminium stretchers, and swear by them ,, but muggins here, cannot sleep on them.
guess I am stuck with my 1" thick ground sheet.
Cheers
Bucky
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