challanger, any good .
Submitted: Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 19:52
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sleepy1
evening everyone,
I thought I knew what 4wd I wanted but apparently didn't ,
well so the handbrake tells me. more like you aren't having one of them as I don't like it. so back to the drawing board. you know what they say, happy wife means a happy life. yer right. anyway what are mitzy challengers like for towing a camper trailer and light off road, oh and Fraser, cheers
Peter
Reply By: bms - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 20:51
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 20:51
sleepy1 they are one of the most underrated 4x4's imho.
A decent set of AT tyres and a small lift with decent shocks you wouldn't go to far wrong.
bms
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Reply By: Ballfyboy - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 20:53
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 20:53
sleepy1,
I have a Challenger + camper trailer set up and find it very good value. They are built on the Triton platform and you can usually pick on up with a pretty good options list for low 20's. My camper fully loaded is approx 900kg and it tows
well. If I remember they have a max tow cap of 2250kg but you would not be setting any speed records with that weight on. They are a little thirsty when towing especially if there are lots of hills involved and I think most owners have had a auto trans cooler installed to keep the auto in good nick.
The only negative is that there is not a huge choice in aftermarket products but enough to keep you happy if you look around.
I love
mine!
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:33
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:33
One thing to think about - and a major reason why friends of our sold theirs - is the fact that the spare is under the rear cargo area floor.
They couldn't put drawers in it to set it up for touring, and even without drawers if they wanted to change the spare the rear compartment contents had to all come out - which was fine when it happened on a dry bitumen roadside but when it was a muddy track it was a different story.
I wouldn't consider a fourby with the spare under the load area even if it had other benefits - it's bad enough having had one where it's stored under the vehicle.
Dave
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Follow Up By: RustyHelen - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:53
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:53
Except you can change where the spare is.
Rusty
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 22:31
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 22:31
Only if the vehicle you choose has a readily available and reasonably priced rear wheel carrier & step available for it.
Otherwise you are buying a $12000 4wd & putting a quarter of it's value on it in one accessory - if it's available.
Dave
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:18
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:18
Not sure what you mean.... The Challenger has the spare underneath, same as a Cruiser. The only difference is the winch is accessed from inside the vehicle.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 17:24
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 17:24
Might have misunderstood when David explained his problem to me. If you put drawers in it you can't access the winch? Would that be more like it?
Dave
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Reply By: RustyHelen - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:55
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:55
Peter
Get on to the Pajero site and ask Pickle this question. He is a bit biased but I have seen his Challenger in operation and it goes OK. Plus has the benefit of not being a "truck"
Rusty
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Reply By: oz doc - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 22:27
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 22:27
Hi Sleepy1- we have just sold our 98 Challenger after 7 years excellent service. We tow a Challenge off road camper trailer ( about 900kg fully loaded). We found the Challenger a very good all round vehicle. Great for general running around, shopping, etc, but when it went off road- it was quite a capable car. Managed thick soupy soft sand, rocky gullies and steep climbs quite
well. We used to get 14l/100km on average city driving, and about the same country driving with the camper behind. On the down side - it has the turning circle of the titanic - but very easy to reverse park in tight spaces. Good visibility for women drivers. Plenty of room in the back for kids and cargo. Ours was a very reliable car mechanically.Hope this helps. Oz doc.
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Follow Up By: EscapeArtists - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 00:05
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 00:05
Landcruiser.
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Follow Up By: Brian (Montrose, Vic.) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 00:24
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 00:24
On the turning circle, like the triton it is quite quick and easy to get the turn stops adjusted in so that you dont need a 4 lane highway to do a u-turn. Best thing I ever did to my Triton ( same chassis as Challenger).
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Reply By: V64Runner - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 07:25
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 07:25
One of the best and most under-rated four wheel drives on the Australian Market. Seen a few heavily modified for serious outback travelling. Also noticed one the other afternoon last week with a spare wheel carrier mounted on the rear bumper - a nicle looking set up. I just dont like the auto locking hubs on them but there is nothing to stop you from changing to manual locking hubs. Then you have a highly capable vehicle. So go for it ! You will be
pleasntly surprised at what this vehicle will do
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Reply By: sleepy1 - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 19:43
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 19:43
thank you everyone,
I was a bit slow, the one I was going to look at has gone already, but there is more out there, will keep looking, thanks again.
Peter
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Reply By: Member - BUNDY BOY (WA) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:41
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:41
Got one for sale if your interested ....
check the trader
BUNDY
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Reply By: Member - AVA 191 (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 22:01
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 22:01
Sleepy,
We bought one new in 2002, manual, kept for 3yrs, great vehicle, economical for a 4by, great down
hill creeper gear, we put King Springs in the rear for towing a 1900kg rig (on-road only) and all worked
well with a WDH. I was wary of clutch longevity towing that load, however we had no problems at all. I can't imagine towing a camper would throw up any unexpected issues.
It was one of the ones we were sad to see go, when time was up.
Pity they still don't make them new today!!
If you get a good one, you'll be rapt!
(the 2002 model we had had the spare under the vehicle , same as our Landcruiser).
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Reply By: Ballfyboy - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 22:48
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 22:48
Don't worry, if you
check the pajero owners website they have a few pictures of a soon to be released challenger!!!
Well lets hope it is for real and we get it in AUS.
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