Surveyor Generals corner, Who's seen it?

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The ABC did an article on Aboriginal art, in it is claimed that more people have been to the south pole than have been to the Surveyor generals corner. Could this be true? Eric.
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Reply By: equinox - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 22:00

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 22:00
Myself and my dad went there in 97.

Haven't been to south pole.

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Reply By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 22:12

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 22:12
Probably right as there was no public access till 97.
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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 22:28

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 22:28
At a $100 access fee, ehhh NO Thanks
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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 23:06

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 23:06
Almost certainly.

It probably costs less to fly to Antartica than to go to the Corner.

The penguins are probably friendlier than the locals around the Corner:)

Why would the average Joe know the Corner even exists unless they watch the same program ?

AFAIK the CLC haven't issued permits for that area for years.


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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 00:23

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 00:23
When I said no permits issued, I meant no free transit permits. I know it's possible to buy your way in...or at least it was until recently, but I believe that it is, or was, closed entirely for a while.
Does anyone have the latest "goss" on this ?
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Follow Up By: Member - vivien C (VIC) - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 07:47

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 07:47
Footloose,

Friends went there last year and it was $100 per vehicle and $20 per person plus you have to be taken to the corner by someone from the nearby Community.

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Reply By: Baldrick - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 08:05

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 08:05
Considering the Americans have quite a large base at the south pole and fly people in/out it's probably true.

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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 08:35

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 08:35
Could be because it's cheaper and easier to get to the South Pole lol! There are actually two plaques there due to a surveyors mishap or a spat between state surveyor generals departments. One reckons the other is out by about 80 metres. Solution, have two markers.

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Follow Up By: Hux - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:34

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:34
We went there in 2002 and 2005. Getting a transit permit for AP lands is basically impossible, you can get access to SG Corner by paying your quids but you then have to return from whence you came as they won't allow transit permits through AP lands beyond it.

Try applying for a transit permit anyway - you probably won't get a reply. Essentially each community has a say over access to their area. It is beautiful country though....quite spectacular and although it is called the Giles- Mulga Park Road it is really the Gunbarrell Highway....Len's first road, there are quite a few of Lens markers along the way.

We had a legit entry permit into the AP lands and we could hear the locals on the UHF asking others who we were all the way down to Mulga Park.....they certainly are aware that "we" are not normally allowed in.

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Follow Up By: equinox - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 13:47

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 13:47
I do not think most people know there are two markers.

Here's a spiel on it from Geoscience Website (also including the reference to the south pole):

A glance at most maps of Australia will tell you something that isn't quite true. The border that runs along the eastern edge of Western Australia is not actually one continuous straight line.
The survey of the W.A. border was first discussed in 1911, but it wasn't until 1922 that an agreement was signed between then Prime Minister W.M. Hughes, and Acting Premier for South Australia, Mr. Bice, and the Premier of Western Australia, Sir James Mitchell. The agreement set out the border as being a line determined by the 129th meridian east longitude. However, the agreement required that the boundary be defined by lines running north and south from independently fixed points at Deakin and Argyle. When survey work began on the South Australia - Northern Territory border in 1963, it was quickly realised that the earlier agreement precluded the possibility of these lines meeting exactly.
Precise survey methods confirmed this, and in June 1968, two monuments - approximately 127 metres apart - were erected at the junction of the boundaries. This ceremony was attended by the respective Surveyor Generals, H.Comm from Western Australia, H.A. Bailey from South Australia, and P.J. Wells from the Northern Territory. The monuments common to all three territories was named Surveyor General's Corner at the suggestion of the Director of National Mapping. One interesting piece of trivia is that fewer people have visited this site than have been to the South Pole.





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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:29

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:29
Amundson-Scott American base at the south pole;
Five story, 80,000 square feet building.
Summer staff is around 200.
Ice runway is 12,000 feet long

I think it's a fair bet that more people visit the south pole :-))
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Reply By: Steve63 - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 13:28

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 13:28
Probably. There is continual turn over on the bases down there.Surveyor Generals corner you need a permit. It is straight in and out from the GCR, one route only no detours. You then need to pay $100 per vehicle plus $30 per person. I believe it is very difficult to get a permit to go anywhere else.

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Reply By: Eric Experience - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 21:59

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 21:59
Thanks for the replies. I was thinking of slipping over there after Innaminka but looks to hard politically. Thanks again. Eric
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 17:26

Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 17:26
While they promulgate a fee of $100 per vehicle and $20 per person in reality they charge a lot less.

Permits to Blackstone, Wingellina etc no problems. They will check to see if you have them.

The art centre at Wingellina is more interesting than the 'two corners'?
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