border track

Submitted: Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 11:01
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we will be doing the border track in a couple of weeks from pinnaroo and wondering about track conditions?
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 11:22

Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 11:22
XR500,

Haven't been there for a while but I think the National Parks guys have done a big bull doze job and bypassed a lot of the bog holes and sand hills and just blazed a new highway sized track through there. Also some areas have been closed off.I am not sure where I read it but it happened in the last couple of months. I think there was a little bit written in one of the recent fourby magazines

Here is one of the threads from the 4wd out of adelaide sight.

"Just spent the weekend doing the border track or is that the new
border highway .You could take the family magna or falcon on the
first half of it."

We have so little time to enjoy our land
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Follow Up By: xr500 - Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 12:27

Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 12:27
we had done it in september last year and some of the holes had been filled but i heard something about bypassing the dunes with easy tracks !!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 12:31

Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 12:31
Was talking to Ray about it last night, apparently its the new Hume Hwy now.. Next step will be tar and cats eyes, and a BP Eat and Go.

About as challanging as getting out of a shopping center.

Personally I think its disgraceful, but its one more way to bleep on 4wds, make it so 2wds can go everywhere.

I'd be interested to hear.
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Follow Up By: Ray M (Vic) - Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 13:25

Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 13:25
Thats a shame. That big mother dune was the best part. They've probably done more damage with the dozer than 4wds could ever do.Hooroo
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Follow Up By: xr500 - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:42

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:42
I rang parks and wildlife and they have bypassed 5 dunes for revegitation purposes because the tops of the dunes are blowing away and bypassed part of the track where the bog holes are because of the rain has filled them up and if people may drive in them and not realise how deep they are and if the car stops they may not be able to open the doors to exit vehicle !!
The track will be open soon and most holes may be filled in though.
There is no highway that part is bull bleep !!!!
Thanks for the replies
darren
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Reply By: Simon - Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 16:25

Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 16:25
Wonder what they filled in the bogholes with?
Might be like quicksand when wet.

I agree with Ray, They whinge about the damage done by 4x4s motorbikes when one bulldozer can do oh so much more damage.

Apparently you cant even use the old track, why? whos it going to hurt?

Just another thing the National Parks have to answer for.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter [SA] - Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 18:17

Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 18:17
Just remember Simon, you couldn't see what the problem was going down there in the wet and deliberately "carving" the place up. This is what happens when some irresponsible people have "fun" when it is wet. They close it down. Not having a personal attack at you, just pointing out a few points.
Cheers Peter
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Follow Up By: Simon - Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 18:36

Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 18:36
But Peter they havnt closed it down.
They have built a highway through there.
Everybody whinges about enviromental vandalism except when the National Parks do it.

They have singlehandedly done more damage to that area than a 1000 fools in 4x4s could ever do.

Why is there an existing track there that cant be used?

How can someone driveing over a sandhill do any more damage than whats already been done by their bulldozer?

It seems to me that someone in charge of the Parks is ill informed and out of touch with reality.
Where a lot of the bogholes are is adjacent farmland anyway so if the CFS wanted access wouldnt you think theyed use a cleard paddock?
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Follow Up By: xr500 - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:44

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:44
I rang parks and wildlife and they have bypassed 5 dunes for revegitation purposes because the tops of the dunes are blowing away and bypassed part of the track where the bog holes are because of the rain has filled them up and if people may drive in them and not realise how deep they are and if the car stops they may not be able to open the doors to exit vehicle !!
The track will be open soon and most holes may be filled in though.
There is no highway that part is bull bleep !!!!
Thanks for the replies
darren
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Reply By: Phil G - Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 19:19

Sunday, Jul 13, 2003 at 19:19
I guess we also need to know that the Border Track is an access road for fire and other vehicles, which run through teh Ngarkat Conservation Park.. Not everyone goes there to have fun! I guess thats why they've done it up.
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Follow Up By: xr500 - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:45

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:45
I rang parks and wildlife and they have bypassed 5 dunes for revegitation purposes because the tops of the dunes are blowing away and bypassed part of the track where the bog holes are because of the rain has filled them up and if people may drive in them and not realise how deep they are and if the car stops they may not be able to open the doors to exit vehicle !!
The track will be open soon and most holes may be filled in though.
There is no highway that part is bull bleep !!!!
Thanks for the replies
darren
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Reply By: Member - Bernie. (Vic) - Monday, Jul 14, 2003 at 00:33

Monday, Jul 14, 2003 at 00:33
Hi All
Did the Track the week after Easter & yes they have bypassed about 5 dunes
at the start but there is still some challenging one's .
Most Bog holes are still there also but have new bulldozed track beside them
All the new bulldozed track was full of roots & sticks, I read some where it was dozed for the fire trucks.

4wd_out_of_adelaide post no 820 from Richard might give an insight why.

Cheers Bernie Prado TD Auto
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Follow Up By: xr500 - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:45

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:45
I rang parks and wildlife and they have bypassed 5 dunes for revegitation purposes because the tops of the dunes are blowing away and bypassed part of the track where the bog holes are because of the rain has filled them up and if people may drive in them and not realise how deep they are and if the car stops they may not be able to open the doors to exit vehicle !!
The track will be open soon and most holes may be filled in though.
There is no highway that part is bull bleep !!!!
Thanks for the replies
darren
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Reply By: Cashy - Monday, Jul 14, 2003 at 13:04

Monday, Jul 14, 2003 at 13:04
I did it over Easter and found it was an enjoyable drive. Still some challanging dunes that required 20 PSI or less to get over. Yes some of the track was bypassed but the father south you go the less track changes were made. I am thinking of going back later in the year.

Cashy
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Follow Up By: xr500 - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:42

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:42
I rang parks and wildlife and they have bypassed 5 dunes for revegitation purposes because the tops of the dunes are blowing away and bypassed part of the track where the bog holes are because of the rain has filled them up and if people may drive in them and not realise how deep they are and if the car stops they may not be able to open the doors to exit vehicle !!
The track will be open soon and most holes may be filled in though.
There is no highway that part is bull bleep !!!!
Thanks for the replies
darren
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Follow Up By: Simon - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:30

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:30
Im guessing you rang parks and wildlife xr500?
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Follow Up By: Ray M (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 14:11

Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 14:11
Simon. wherever did you get that idea fromHooroo
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Reply By: Simon - Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 13:29

Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 13:29
Did you really think it was a sealed road there xr?

I still think its funny that so many ppl whinge about the track being dug up by motor bikes and 4x4s yet its ok to bulldoze a new track??

I cant even understand the need to get firetrucks in there, it would be extremely hard to fight a fire in there until it come out in the open anyway?

I know one thing for certain, youd NEVER get me in there on the back of a fire truck in the middle of summer when a bushfire is burning out of control.

But then again arnt fires all fought from central command in Cannberra now?
Theyd know .
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Follow Up By: xr500 - Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 13:48

Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 13:48
simon
they still need a track to maintain the fence and possibly for spot fires !!
i dont think they would fight a large fire when there is no threat to homes and lives
darren
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