New V8 Landcruiser any issues ? Especially the 70 series ?

It is only relevent to the V8 Diesel. Sorry missed that important bit.

We looked into the new V8 79 series recently. Apart from not wanting a $70k car loan the issue that you have heard of is what really put us off.

In the specs you will see that the rear wheel track is nearly 10cm narrower than the front wheel track. Once you know this you will easily notice it on the vehicle itself. The mines would be having issues with the off road handling - you can imagine the rear wheels trying to slide into the tracks of the front all the time. Of course it would not be a problem on the road.

I think it's snake racing (adverts in 4wd mag) make 50mm spacers for them, but from my understanding these are illegal on the road. And I don't think I'd run two different types of tires / rims which could help with the issue, it's just impractical if you're carrying spares out bush.

So we certainly won't touch one until they correct this issue - I can't believe a company like toyota can widen the front & forget about the back!

Yes , I have heard that several contractors have told their employees not to wash underneath them (with a high pressure cleaner), because the oil sender gets water in it & the ute stops , could be same effect hitting a puddle !

Mine & Government agencies are also having issues with overloading the front axle. Simply fitting a 9,000lb winch to an alloy bar with 2 average guys in the front seats will take it over the max axle load. I know Parks Vic were experimenting with mounting winches to the rear, moving slipon fire units back 1/2 a metre & disconnecting the front fuel tank all in an effort to move weight behind the rear axle.
Cheers Craig..........

Beddo,
A couple of problems have surfaced, one is excessive oil consumption with some of the motors, don't know whats causing the problem we have a soom using oil where I work, also the 100mm difference between the front and rear track is causing problems in the scrub with the arse end not knowing what to do.

I would wait for the next model, I Hope this helps.

"heard the mines were having problems with them but he was not sure what"

anyone else find this funny?
Im guessing there the same problems
blocked radiators, shagged cvs, stuffed brakes,
whic is just norml mining wear and tear. It costs 20k pluss a year to keep a mine vehicle going so yea Ive got no doubt there having "issues" its not something the normal buyer has to worry about

Sounds like $hit to me!!

"I heard rumors" Yeah well when you hear something definitive come and let us know.

Thousands of them in country now and no one has come up with any real issue other than some oil usage in the early km's which is apparently listed in the owners manual as a point to monitor.
Due apparently to hard rings taking time to bed in.

i know of 5 70 series l/c utes v8 diesels sitting in w/shops with problems 4 with turbo issues and injector problems 1 closer to home after 38000k dropped oil pressure dramatically after 30000 service . turbos seem a problem

All I know is that a mate I know very bought a TD6 79 in second hand Albany after the original owner (a farmer) traded it in for TDv8 76. A month or two later the original owner offered him a direct swap to get his TD6 79 back. Apparently the TD6 has better low down power (off road/towing) compared to the TDv8 which better top end.

Cheers

I have a TD V8.....so I can speak with some authority on the vehicle ...cant say the same about a lot of these posts!..rumour mongering , bulsh*t and a few other things

It dosent burn oil..........it tracks very well wherever I have been..... and that is along 3,000kkm of black top from home to get to the Kimberleys.......the GRR and countless tracks off road up there, water xings etc.......I have spent most of my driving life off and on road and it is the best vehicle for comfort, handling and power I have had

maybe there might be some fuel pumps developing some issues...maybe... but what % of them?

I happily place my life in its hands in very remote areas...(and on Toyotas reputation for addressing any issues if they arise) as against some other "popular" models and makes whose negative and factual posts have been numerous on here

GEEZ,
Just reading this as a non toyota owner, I get the impression that criticizing Toyota 4wd vehicles in any way is a sure way to be told that you don't know nothing and your opinions are crap.

To the Toyota owners out there, don't be so defensive, admit that there are other opinions which just may be valid too.

Don't pick on me, I drive a Landrover and thus get bleep e from both Nissan and Toyota owners for my choice of transport.

Disco.

yep same here owner of a new 76TDV8 with 30,000k's on the clock only 8 months old and no issues so far. power is amazing so much torque and most of the time i start in second gear to take off. just luv driving it.

cheers and all the best,
Stamps

Well people where to start hav owned and driven most 4wds for most of my life and i hav loved every one of them ,so what i am about to say is fact, as i hav lived most of it here in the NW of WA so 4wds are a part of every day life at work and play for me,i now own the 76 V8 workmate done 40ks once around AUS with van used small amount of oil while running in 5000km and i would say it now burns 1lt 10000km ,used 20lt 100km with van at a constant 100kp per hr first 10000km than 17lt 18lt next 5000km,now i use 15lt 17lt average with van 100km per hr ,around town 11lt 12lt out bush 13lt 15lt with full load no van , as for the fuel filter (I) change every 10000 toyota say when the filter light comes on, (I) change oil and filter 10000 toyota say oil only filter at every 20000,wheel tracking (I) do not and hav not had a problem up here as it is mostly rocks you avoid not ruts , but i agree it sucks TOYOTA,Rear spings are use less will change soon??? using Load helpers at the moment do the job well for the price ,Hav Toyota bull bar with winch do not know what the weight issue is , I hav not had a problem yet and i hav not heard of any and beleive me if there were any, word would be out as small places like this it travels fast ,and there are bleep loads of the new cruisers up here ,and i work for mineing co and drive one at work, i do hope it stays the same . i brought it to tow the van and bush bashing and do not regret it one bit, its not perfect but bleep !! boys can you keep up? Regards Ned

There is already quite a few new V8's on the 2nd hand market for around $60k
And likewise you would pay around $50k for a HDJ79R with about 60000 on the clock.
So are people dumping the V8's or are the older TD's still overpriced? From what I gather you shouldn't be paying much more than $40k for the older ones with standard sort of k's.

Toyota owners aren't defensive. We just get sick and tired of people, who should know better, submitting comments from a "mate" somewhere about "a problem" he heard of from another "mate".

That's why I look at LCOOL for info on these new Cruisers. Posters on that site do not seem to post rumour and innuendo.

My TDV8 trayback used a bit of oil in the first 5000kays. It was all spent towing a van and I wasn't surprised. Just topped it up and got on with it. The thing pulls like a 15 year old boy.

I'm sitting in Quorn at the moment on the way back from Innamincka. It towed my Trakmaster over to ML and then up thru Cam Corner, Bore Track, down the Strez and into Arkaroola (now THAT track is awful !!). Not a problem.

It seems to use about 500mls of oil over 5000 kays while towing. I can live with that.

When I get home I may even put on the ultimate accessories (as recommended by some passersby who didn't know I was listening to their comments about my vehicle), two chrome smoke stacks coming up between the cab and the tray. Now that will look cool.

cheers and beers

btw, the Gathering was great !!

There are no issues with the new cruisers. Like all vehicles it's important to choose a vehicle that suits your requirements. Saying the mines are having issues is a general statement. I can tell you the mines would have had issues with every vehicle they have ever bought, it's a matter of working around the aspects that effect them, unless off course they want to custom make or order a special vehicle.! Don't think so.!

The fact that the mines are ordering the new cruisers and not anything else is what you should be listening to, enough said.

What I personally get tired of is people who talk about rumours when it comes to Toyota, I'm only interested in facts, like anyone else I believe.

OK. I'll declare an interest up front. I drive a Disco 3 and at the moment I work at a Land Rover Dealership. The mechanics at our workshop talk to the mechanics at the Toyota Dealer a couple of hundred metres down the road. This is what they have to say.

1) The lack of SRS air bags IS an issue for some mine operators and Govvy departments with a strong safety culture.
2) No-one has had a bitch about the difference in track.
3) Unexplained oil use is an issue with some vehicles.
4) If the starter motor needs replacement, the entire engine has to be lifted out.
5) To their knowledge, no-one has been left stranded in the bush because of any issues with the new Tojos.

That's it. Straight from the horse's mouths.

To me this sounds like any normal teething issues with any new model of any make of car. Toyota will obviously address these issues if they need it.

I wouldn't buy one myself, but not for any of the reasons or issues or rumours in this thread. I would take one if it were given to me though.

Cheers

Russ.

Yet more "hearsay" is that this model is a stop gap before they release the real version at the end of this year or early next. Something to do with the emissions laws.

I've heard of the difficulty of alternator replacement as well.

It's like most new products, there is always going to be a lot of excitement and criticism / speculation. I guess particularly true for those that are surrounded by a lot of hype.

There are many arguments for different tracks sizes. Some say it improves stability, eg. a tricycle with single wheel at front is less stable than tricycle with single wheel at rear i.e. a narrower track...others disagree; http://www.wsca.ca/index.php?Page=232.0&Key=330

Many vehicles have wider front than rear track widths. It is hard to find the rhyme or reason for the variation. Sometimes i wonder if is is not just for aesthetics or the need to fit a bigger engine in the front etc.

Is there any evidence that the smaller rear track is detrimental to off road ability or are people listening to hearsay or leaping to conclusions rather than examining their own driving practices ? (No offense implied...but we do all consider ourselves experts...don't we?)

In reply to any issues with the LC70 V8 landcruisers - I have owned a GXL ute since February 2008 and used it as a tradesman's ute towing my work trailer and occasional offroad fishing trip. Great power, economy as stated by toyota, very comfortable especially compared to my old TD6 12ht. Issues have been large turning circle - get used to it.

Biggest concern has been the noisy injector/s. A real cold start slap until it warms up and then just a noisy rattle. Toyota says they are aware of it and are looking into reprogramming the computer to stop overfueling the injector.

Otherwise it is ok to keep driving. Mechanically it has been fine. Amazing ability to hill climb on sandy beaches, the torque band is just so much longer than before so I don't run out of puff on steep sandy hill climbs. No problems with axle tracking, great for towing fully loaded and still with power to overhaul roadtrains like a petrol car.