Hi-lift Winching

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 17:41
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I have just bought a Hi-Lift jack, apparently the hi-lift can be used as for winching? Has anyone used one for this purpose? I am looking at getting a hand winch and wondering if the jack will do the same thing as one? thanks in advance
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Reply By: RobAck - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 17:48

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 17:48
Mike there is a winch kit you can purchase for the hi-lift as well as a very natty wheel lifter as well. The winch capability allows you to use the jack from the front, side or back of a vehicle but like a hand winch it requires human effort to use and is hard work.

From a risk perspective both winching and hi-lift jack and exhaust jack are "advanced" recovery techniques and I suggest you either join a 4WD club or get a decent 4WD trainer to show you how to correctly and safely use the equipment.

I used to avoid hi-lifts and still do but the winch and wheel lift kits make the jack a far more usable piece of recovery equipment but in trained hands

RobA
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Follow Up By: Mike GU - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 17:52

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 17:52
I got a wheel lifter, and have taken a 4wd recovery course, just thinking about not getting a hand winch if the jack does the same job, thanks
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Follow Up By: Member - Jon W (WA) - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 18:11

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 18:11
Hi all

I have one thing to add about using the hi lift jacks, about 6 years ago i was working on the car after i had finished i was lowering it down not paying attention and WHAK the hand slipped off smashed he across the face and crushed my thumb in to 4 bits.

So be careful

ps are hand winches geared to make it abit easier??????
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Reply By: Ken - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 19:54

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 19:54
Mike, a high lift can be used as a winch but they make a poor substitute for a proper winch. The amount to pull [length, not power] is limited to about the length of the jack column. It requires frequent resetting to achieve any winching distance. For a hand winch you can't beat a Tirfor or one of the cheap imitations.
Ken
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 20:03

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 20:03
Hi Mike

Have actually used a hi-lift to extract the car once when my winch at the time couldn't do it. I had to pull the car sideways about a meter and the effective movement I got was about 300mm per set up because of slack in chains etc. Hard work but it did do the job.
Don't think I every really extracted the car in anger with the hand winch.

But I have configured my electric winch on the GU so that it can pull even backwards and sideways (with reduced force) and it has been used many times now and really the hand winch and hi-lift in no way compete with a plasma roped electric winch.

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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 21:05

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 21:05
Hi lift jack's main use is as ballast when you have no other gear on board. For most long trips the best place to stow the hi-lift jack is securely in the shed.
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Follow Up By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 22:36

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 22:36
Completely dissagree with you Bob,as Ihave used mine more than once to get me out of a very 'bogged' situation and also used it to help others.Iwould not go on any bush trip without one.As others have said they should be used with caution and it is important that the vehicle has the required jacking points attached.Ihave not yet used it for winching but it is certainly a great lifting tool.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Wednesday, Jul 16, 2008 at 17:34

Wednesday, Jul 16, 2008 at 17:34
I'll agree with both of you.
When I had a Hilux it had tubular barwork right around making it possible to jack from the front, side & rear. We often drove in severely rutted country & the hilift was the quickest & easiest recovery in many situations. On outback trips it became our bead breaker & on 2 crashes was used to jack the roof up & bend guards out to make vehicles drivable. There are few tools as flexible as one of these.
But on the other hand I've carried the hilift on my 105 Cruiser for 7 years & has only been used twice in all that time. It's bulk & weight will mean that on the next vehicle it wont be fitted.
So I suppose the point is that in some terrain the jack is very useful particually if the vehicle has provision but for others there are different options that can do away with the need for that great big piece of "Ballast" :-))
Cheers Craig.............
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Reply By: pathfinder - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 13:29

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 13:29
I personally think an airbag jack is a safer and still versatile option and takes up little space/weight.

Having said that, one the real advantage of high lifts over other jacks is the ability to directly lift individual wheels (with the correct attachment, or at a pinch, a section of old snatch strap) to allow material to be put under them - without having to first take up the droop of the suspension system.
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