200 Series Cruiser Load Capacity: Just the Facts Please
Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:45
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Gone Bush (WA)
It's probably time to present some facts about the carrying capacity of the LC200. There is just so much ill-informed rubbish going around, a lot of it in magazines and newspapers.
Let's compare carrying capacity figures using the diesel GXL:
LC200: 600 - 670kg
LC100: 710 - 750kg
Nissan Patrol 3 litre ST-L: 569kg
Range Rover Sport TDV8: 433kg
As far as the
suspension saying "get out fat boy", is concerned, the 100 series Sahara had self levelling
suspension that was a pain when putting on a van with a decent hitch weight. The LC200 does not have this "feature".
The GVM upgrade being offered by K&N in
Perth uses Dobinson's Springs from QLD.
Dobinson's Springs
The new compliance plate and engineer's certification costs $2800 (including the new springs). At least you can load up knowing the
suspension will handle it. So many people load up their stock vehicles, go charging into the bush and then wonder why they've broken things.
Personally I think that cost is way over the top. I may put stronger
suspension, or maybe airbags, in
mine but I still won't overload the vehicle. It will be to stop the headlights reaching for the sky when towing.
Being able to upgrade the carrying capacity this way does not reflect poorly on the original vehicle. As many are implying.
And just for those people who really want to take the kitchen sink:
Landcruiser Troopy TDV8: 965kg
Landcruiser Trayback GXL TDV8: 1280kg
cheers
Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:00
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:00
Ah gee's Stephen, posting actual facts just isn't fair. I mean how will the Doomsayers be able to maintain the rumours now? It was much better thinking someone bought a Yaris for the family while he towed the caravan with the sagging 200 - now thats real humour!!! Perhaps we can all get back to bagging the 3.0TD now!
Cheers
Captain
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:09
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:09
Yeah gees what a bugga, a good story ruined now :-(
I actually thought the Yaris one was a great laugh, better yet the magazine editor must have believed it to print it.
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Reply By: The Landy - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:03
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:03
And for those that want to take the kitchen, rather than just the kitchen sink!!
Landrover 130 twin cab
GVM: 3,500kg
Payload: 1,380kg
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:07
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:07
Don't worry about the kitchen, don't you need that much load carrying capacity for all the Landrover spares required to keep it running :-))
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:22
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:22
and a turning circle of the uss nimitz .
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:40
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:40
hahahah...something like that :)
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:50
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:50
I would still love to own one as a second 4wd though .
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:51
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:51
Wash your mouth out :-)
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 13:21
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 13:21
Landy,
a couple of weeks ago I would almost have agreed with you. I had the same Landrover Dual Cab race past me on the Nullarbor while I was struggling against those headwinds.
He passed me twice during the day.
I wondered why he would have stopped between passing me and I looked up their specs:
Fuel Tank capacity 75 litres.
That's OK for Pommyland but not here.
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 13:45
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 13:45
Gone Bsh....Agree totally, although many vehicles have tanks with far less capacity then they should for Australia......
The Landy has 200 litre in tanks plus 2 gerry's making a total of 240 litres.....
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Reply By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:07
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:07
Gone Bush (WA)
A very informative post there matey....... many thanks for the info!
Cheers
Brian
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Reply By: troopyman - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:18
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:18
Some people need to do the sums regarding how much weight they will carry before buying vehicles .
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:18
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:18
My wheelbarrow 85 kg.
My stepladder 120kg.
Not sure of the relevance, but I just didn't want to feel left out LOL.
Jim.
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:29
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:29
Just uprating the spring ratio in the Sahara as you typed that GB. I agree the self levelling is a pain as it tells you to unload or bounce on the bump stops. Will have stroger springs and the capacity to pump up the Polyairs if ever needed.
I entered into the discussion on uprating the 200 GVM last night in another place. I understand that Ironman are doing a similar upgrade, but I am not sure of the costings.
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Reply By: SPRINT-GTO - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:33
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:33
Gone Bush
so your saying the 100 series has a greater carrying capacity???
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Reply By: SPRINT-GTO - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:36
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:36
Gone Bush
so your saying the 100 series has a greater carrying capacity than the 200???
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 13:23
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 13:23
Yes, but I only said it once. lol
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 13:28
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 13:28
Sprint,
there's a lot to be said about 100 series owners keeping their vehicles, or even saying a good second hand 100 may be a better buy than the 200.
The aforementioned load capacity
No finicky fuel pump (LC200 pump doesn't seem to like even slightly dirty fuel).
HUGE range of proven accessories.
Plenty of power for towing (yes, the LC200 has more but 150kW is certainly enough)
You don't have to think twice, or even three times, before plumbing into the electrical system.
Just thinking out loud, that's all.
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Reply By: Boobook2 - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:41
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:41
Ateco ( Warn winch Distributor) are also doing a GVM upgrade to 3575kg with 2" lift front and rear.
Ridepro - $1936 inc springs, heavier shocks, installation, wheel alignment and GVM certification and modification plate.
Not bad. Also rear seats in or out in the certification.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 16:35
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 16:35
If you want more payload, then get a smaller wagon like a Prado - 710kg up to 950kg depending on model. Seems crazy.....
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 16:36
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 16:36
180 litres std as
well.
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Reply By: PeterInSa - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 19:27
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 19:27
I think the carrying capacity of the LC 100 and the LC 200 are terrible for those that go bush.
My understanding is:
For the LC 200, 6 blokes at 90Kg each and a full tank of diesel, you are overloaded and illegal.
For the LC 100 towing a 21' Caravan with 250KG on the ball, plus full tank of Diesel (Do not know the tank size say 100LT) 100kg, plus husband and wife 160Kg,
Plus Steel Bullbar and winch, plus Towbar and Tongue, plus second battery, plus CB, plus snorkle, plus second spare tyre and without anything in the back (fanbelts, oil, battery
water,
water pump, folding chairs, table, Waeco) you are close to being overloaded, if not already.
I think the cost of a GVM upgrade could be money
well spent.
Phil, I think the Prado's can only tow vans up to 2500Kg, some gear of course could be put in the back of the vehicle because of its extra load capacity, which to some degree is offset by larger fuel tanks, more weight when full.
Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 19:32
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 19:32
Same analogy applies to the Nissan Patrol also.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graeme W (NSW) - Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 20:35
Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 at 20:35
I've read that the risk of exceeding GVM when you've filled all the seats and have full fuel, is why some of the upmarket LC200s don't have the sub tank (93lt main tank only).
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