Your wealth of knowledge re water pressure reducers
Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 19:17
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Bunny
Hi everyone,
We would really appreciate your considered opinion - it has been recommended that we purchase a water presssure reducer to protect our hot water system on board our Coromal caravan - apparently some water pressure in caravan parks is too much and can have an adverse effect on hot water systems. I went to a plumbing place today and apparently a simple apparatus will cost something like $170 to install.
Do you all feel that these are necessary, i.e. - is the water pressure in various caravan parks too high - could it damage our hot water system in the van. Seems like a like for a simple little plumbing item!
Any ideas would be appreciaciated.
Reply By: Member - Craig M (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:05
Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:05
Make sure you don't get pressure and flow mixed up. Flow is quantity of water in l/sec. past a point. Pressure is the force exerted on the inside surface area of the pipe, hotwater system tank etc that contains the water.
Spending the money on a balancing valve (about right at $170) makes good sense. Some ring mains in caravan parks can sit at 100psi if there is no load (drain) on them. If you get the ring main at say 50mm that is quite some considerable water hammering into your van. Turning a tap to reduce the flow will not reduce the pressure as the pressure will eventually build up to the mains pressure on the caravan side of the tap. What you will get is a huge burst of water followed by a trickle as the pressure dies off. It will then deliver water at the flow that the tap is set at.
To prove this get a gun thingy on the end of your garden hose (yes I realise these things may be foreign objects in some areas)
and only half open the tap. Then squeeze the trigger. Big water first then back to a moderate flow. It is the constant pressure that causes the problem no so much the flow. Where you might run into problems with small gas hot water systems is the flow is too great to allow the water to heat properly. The shower will have great 'pressure' (really flow) but the water will be cold because it has not remained in the heat exchanger long enough to get hot.
Spend the bucks and try to get an adjustable one if you can and stick a pressure guage on the van side of it to keep an eye on it. Your HW manufacturer should have listed a max pressure (in KPA or PSI) and flow (in litres per second) that the unit can take. Working out flow is easy. See how many seconds it takes to fill a 10lt bucket and do the maths.
Most of this info comes from bitter experience and years designing closed loop chilled water systems.
I am sure there will be other opinions and those that will question my logic but I urge the doubting thomases to try the hose experiment for themselves.
Better to be safe than wet I always think.
Craig
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Reply By: bv - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:18
Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:18
Bunny,
Have a look at Camec's website, they have a variety of plastic pressure reducers for around $50.00. I have a brass one that fits onto the tap, but carry a plastic one as a spare (in case the brass one is stolen; sprayed it olive green to make it less obvious)
According to the instructions that came with my Attwood heater, the
water supply should not exceed 450kPa or 65 PSI.
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