windy gas cooking
Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 at 20:50
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oz doc
Hi all. Just lately we have struck some very windy
camping conditions which have played havoc with our current cooking arrangements. We normally use the Lido Junior stove on our camper trailer with good results. However this stove struggles when it is windy. Not sure if we need to consider a new regulator, new stove or different system for cooking when windy. Thoughts everyone?Thanks. doc.
Reply By: Member - Madfisher - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 at 20:59
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 at 20:59
Can you position your 4by to act as a wind break, works for us.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 at 21:01
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 at 21:01
A perennial problem I think for most of us. Our camper is fitted with a Smeg Two burner Stove and it too battles in very windy conditions. I've wound up trying all sorts of antics to keep "her" onside whilst cooking. Every thing from VB Cartons as wind blocks to on one occasion even rotating the camper trailer in an endeavour to get the
cook top in the lee of the wind.
If anyone on this
forum can come up with a sure-fire solution for those of us who must
cook in the open they will become an instant legend.
Ian
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 at 21:05
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 at 21:05
mmmm, should i start the argument on who should be doing the cookin'
ready to duck..............now! :-O
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Follow Up By: Member - Serg (VIC) - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 at 21:14
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 at 21:14
Easy, mate. Take a piece of fiberglass cloth and wrap around kettle/pot. I am talking about “thick” fiberglass cloth not those flimsy one that used for doing fiberglass. Can be found everywhere for example in Bunnings.
Cheers
Serg
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Reply By: NewNomads - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 at 23:07
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008 at 23:07
No answer for you, but i feel your pain...I once hiked around the coast of the Isle of Whight (UK) with my dad, about 73
miles i think it was. This was about 20 odd years ago, and our sole means of cooking was one of those tiny black box affairs where you use a fire lighter for fuel. When folded its not much bigger than a ciggy pack, and cooking breakfast in the morning a Sparrow F..T would blow it out......Had a ball though!!
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Reply By: Member - Rodney B- Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 00:27
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 00:27
Image Could Not Be FoundImage Could Not Be FoundHad the same problem with our CT but just added this windbreak which doubles as the drawer end for our 4 shelves. Just screws in position with two 1/4 wingnuts and some large washers and takes about a minute to set up.
Only use it when the wind blows.
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Follow Up By: Member - kevin Y (SA) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 20:03
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 20:03
Seems that this is TOOOOOO simple for most lol
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Reply By: Brew69(SA) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 06:13
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 06:13
Get a Coleman Dual Fuel Stove.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 06:29
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 06:29
We think we have solved the problem, ( sort of )
Only for low pressure gas stoves
Have installed a couple of quality, quick release air couplings, on our gas line. One just below the regulator, the other at the stove. I made sure that they have rubber seals inside the female coupling.
Have managed to get a 10 mt low pressure flexible gas hose, from the local hardware store ( $35 from memory )
Can manoeuvre the stove, and or kitchen to anywhere we so desire.
Works Brilliantly.
Will send pics if you like. Just let me know
Cheers
Bucky
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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 17:31
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 17:31
1 added extra was a 300mm high 3 sided windbreak.
Works a treat, on the back of the Trak Shak, when we just pull up for a cuppa !
Sorry about that
Cheers
Bucky
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 07:50
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 07:50
Hi Doc
That is the one cooking area left where we use our small coleman fuel burner stove. Even though they almost fit in your hand the massive power output and fuel pressure they generate makes them survive better in windy conditions , but as soon as the wind drops we are back to the better controlled gas cannister stoves.
P.S. If you can , its always better to have the cooking appliance at ground level .
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Follow Up By: oz doc - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:11
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:11
Hi Robin, I was looking at the coleman stoves. So you find the fuel ones are better than the gas ones in high wind? What do you mean by 'better controlled' for the gas ones? Is your gas stove a Coleman also?Ta. Doc.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:39
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:39
Hi Doc
Have not studied Coleman gas stove, we use 3 different brands of
gas cannister ones. However from what I have seen of a friends one (the new one like a saucepan which opens up to 2 burners - but with no wind break)
Its gas comes out from a lesser number of jets and is much noiser than ours and appears to perform in the wind between the normal gas and the fuel stoves.
The fuel stoves vapourize the fuel with quite a force and can be pumped up to high pressure when needed. This makes them more immune to wind, but the pressure can drop off quickly and their type of operation requires a significant fuel flow for them to work properly hence we have never found
the 2 single burner fuel stoves we have to be suitable for low heat output and my wife won't use them because they can flair up as
well.
So we just carry one ,as its small ,for those special occasions it addresses
well.
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 08:21
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 08:21
Doc ,
I had the same problem with the dicky stove in my Trak Shak . I took it out and built in one of those cheap cast iron jobs with the two big burners . I also made a thee sided windbreak out of sheat steel . This folds in at each end and then folds forward to sit flat on the top of the stove . All you need is tin snips , some hinges and a rivet gun - dead easy .
It ended up as a very powerful stove , unaffected by wind .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: oz doc - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 08:56
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 08:56
Hi Willie, think I might do something similar. Our setup already has a folding sheet metal windbreak on two sides. I was thinking of making a removable windbreak for the other two sides. Might try this before other options. Where did you get the sheet steel from? Ta . doc.
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Follow Up By: Member - Serg (VIC) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:38
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:38
“Where did you get the sheet steel from?”
Old computer cases abundant in urban area -my main source for bleep quality sheet metal.
Serg
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Follow Up By: DIO - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:53
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:53
Sheet steel/metal, any half decent hardware store or metal store (Stratco) etc.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 18:16
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 18:16
As DIO suggested , any harware store has it .
I had great time building my folding wind shield . I am usually such a clutz at building things that when this turned out so
well , I was pretty pleased with myself .
Of course there had to be some crticism from over critical engineering type friends - I apparrently used twice ( maybe three times !) as many rivets as were really needed .
willie .
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Reply By: Ron173 - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:56
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:56
As above, Coleman Powerhouse, dual fuel, ultimate weapon in windy conditions.
Has its own windshield, but burners are superb, like gas, but very powerful too, and if need be can be reduced to the slightest simmer.
Folds up in its own robust box, and to top it off we have a bbq burner plate which fits on it, just the generic type but great for all cooking.
Bit exy to purchase, but the best gear usually is.
Would never go
camping, or even a picnic bbq lunch without it.
Ron
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Reply By: wendys - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 19:26
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 19:26
Had similar problems with gas stoves - generic brands and price to match - from mass gear
camping shop. Switched to Coleman 2 burner gas stove - excellent, and more economic on gas than the old ones were.
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Reply By: The Yeti - Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 21:53
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008 at 21:53
Try a couple of rings (like egg rings) around the burner between the base and the rest for the pans etc. Make sure they are the same height as the burner and it will keep the wind out. These seem to concentrate the heat and work
well for us.
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