Black Wolf Turbo Tent Fly

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 19:02
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Yes, a million threads on the Turbo tent, but can't find an answer to this one.

Is it necessary to put the fly up each time the tent is used?
It looks like all the tent ropes connect to the fly, so without the fly, the 'inner' is self supporting on its legs, and only secured by the tent pegs at the corners of the floor. Is that right?

If so, I guess you would only go to bed without the fly if you expected no rain, no wind and no dew.

I see the integrated fly as a big advantage over the cheaper tourer tents. With most of them, if you want a fly (and often you do), it has to be pitched separately with it's own poles etc.

But I'm figuring sometimes, for a quick overnight crash, getting the inner up quick without the fly might be the go.

Can some Black Wolf owners give me a heads up on this.
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Reply By: Willykj - Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 19:10

Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 19:10
We have had a Turbo since they first came out. Always use the fly just in case some wind comes up during the night - using just the 4 corner guy ropes. For me that is safer & it is so quick.

However, over the years I have seen lots of Turbo owners not use the fly when they are doing a overnight stopover.

Willy
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Reply By: Jeelan - Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 19:39

Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 19:39
hey mate

we've had a black wolf tent for a couple of years and the majority of the time we've used it, it's been setup without the fly and only pegged on the 4 corners.

Even with the fly, i've only used the additional guy ropes on 2-3 occasions. The tent sheds wind etc quite well in that respect.

The biggest problem not having the fly is the condensation on the inner walls in the morning is sometimes quite bad. However, i feel the Blackwolf fly's are quite poorly designed in terms of the overhang above the tent entrance. Its small enough to be useless as a real awning and short of putting it up on the poles, you cant roll it up and store the flap away. A couple of months ago, i had the fly altered at a canvas shop and they stitched a couple of velcro tabs on the fly just above the top of the tent door so i can now roll the "awning" away when i put the fly up.

Other than that, the fly and tent inner are the same material and having used the tent in light to med rains etc hasnt been an issue for either the canvas, frame or the joints/knuckles. I keep the joints lubricated with a little CRC after every use.

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Jeelan


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Follow Up By: Jeelan - Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 19:41

Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 19:41
sorry that should hv been WD-40, NOT CRC - dont know what i was thinking then!

cheers
jeelan
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Follow Up By: Member - Kingsley N (SA) - Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 23:04

Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 23:04
Jeelan,

I agree with your comments on the poorly designed flap. We were caught out in a very strong windstorm at Birdsville. I couldn't stabilise the front of the tent with two extra guy ropes (Not Supplied by the way!) so I collapsed the poles and pulled the flap down as close to the ground as I could with the guys. It was hardly satisfactory flapping about wildly. Your modification to fasten it back sounds good.

We are also bothered by the condensation on cold nights. There should be a zippered vent in the apex of the roof. I think the eco/lightweight version has one. Friends with the OZtent were not bothered by the wind or condensation. The Oztent has upper vents and no fly!

Getting back to the original question asked above, yes, we have camped in calm conditions with no fly, just the four ground pegs, one at each corner. Usually we put the fly up and often peg out the four extra guy ropes, but not eight.

Kingo
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Reply By: Matt(WA) - Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 00:33

Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 00:33
Hi Norm,

We always put the fly up when we use our turbo 240. It clips in at all four corners, bit of velcro on the internal sides and two poles and two guy's. It really dosent take that much(maybe 5 mins) to put it up. I like the peace of mind, and murpy seems to really like me!!!. Read that you had concerns with everyone saying that its hard to get back into the bag. We have no problems at all. Once the tent has had a little use its easy. We actually keep a few other bits and pieces in the tent bag with the tent. Just takes a bit of practice. Easiest way to get it right is to drive the nullaboar a few times sleeping in it each night. Pro after a few days!
Hope this helps
Matt

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Reply By: andoland - Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 08:16

Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 08:16
We hardly ever put the fly up for overnight camps on our turbo 300. Given that it only covers the roof and not the sides of the tent it isn't much use in keeping rain off anyway (we have used it without the fly in rain and had no leaks) and I think the only real purpose of the fly is to hold the awning on and to stabilize the tent in windy weather.

Ando
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Reply By: Kiwi & "Grenade" - Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 15:17

Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 15:17
Like others have said...no need for fly...I think ours has been used once or maybe twice on 2 different blackwolf turbos....
The fly has its own ropes...and so does tent....the tent has ropes off the corners and we didnt even use them in 80kph winds at lake eyre and didnt move an inch....

we usually leave the fly at home!!LOL!!
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