Portable solar panel fixed to a camper trailer.

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 17:05
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Hello
We have a camper trailer with a flat roof on which we want to put a 80 watt solar panel, but need to take it off when stopped as it is a flip over and out type.
Should I get a portable fiolding one that can be fixed or a fixed one that can be put out when needed?
does this make sense?
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Reply By: Member - Tony B (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 17:38

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 17:38
Portable will be the way to go then. You can also follow the sun with the portable without having to move your van. So all good. 80w will only be a back up though ie you need around 140-160 and 100-200amp Hr of battery to run independent if you have about 80ltr of car fridge and a couple of lights. Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: Findanomad - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:45

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:45
We have a three way fridge so I really want the solar power to run a 35l waeco, I think the calcualtions work for avg 1amphour over 24 hours can be supplied by a 80 watt pushing about 5 amps for 4-5 hours a day.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ (wa) - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:06

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:06
An 80 Watt solar panel will only put out ~4.85 amps as a "rated maximum output" and it's not unusual to see it at the other end of the scale, at <1 amp either.

The fridge numbers you are quoting eg; average 1 AH per day is probably unobtainable as a continual and real life use anyway.

Remember the 'type' and the capacity of the auxiliary battery will also affect the Solar panels ability to fully charge it too.

Another important aspect is the type of Solar controller used.

Mainey . . .
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 18:34

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 18:34
A portable bifold type panel seems the go for in camp battery charging - it can easily go where the sun is, at any time. Why would you need it on top of the camper, seeing the car's alternator can charge the camper's battery when you are mobile ?
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Reply By: neil&brenda - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 19:59

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 19:59
Fold out sounds like a plan. You can plonk it on the roof if you want or place it on the ground. Whatever. If you have an inside out panel, you may need to think about a reflecting system to get the max output.
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Reply By: Member - 1/2A - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 20:16

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 20:16
I have 2x75 watt panels hinge together and then I used two extender tent poles from Ray's which are each attached at one end to the panel. I also drive pegs into the ground through the tent poles attach hole which prevents the panel from blowing over on windy days. You will also need a long dual core cable at least 15m long. The longer the better because if you camp near trees you need to move the panel. I have three sets of cable made up with Anderson plugs so that my panels can be up to 20m away from my camper, and believe me I have used all three cables.
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Reply By: Maîneÿ (wa) - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 20:32

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 20:32
I think the best idea is to have the more stable method of a single solar panel mounted on top of the camper trailer by a method that will allow it to be simply removed when you need to set-up the camper trailer.

That way the Solar system is charging the batteries when your stopped at the various spots during the day, eg; shopping centers, lunch or travel breaks etc.

As mentioned above the alternator will charge the battery when driving, but then you don't drive continuously and you need the fridge running 24/7 so the solar panel will probably only assist to supply that power, because 80 watts will not supply enough power for the fridge and lighting etc for 24/7 use, two or maybe a larger panel will work better but as they say it has to fit where you want it to be when traveling.

Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Findanomad - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:47

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:47
Yes, I was thinking along these lines. If we stop for a couple of hours would be good to still have the solar charging but with it setup maybe with wing nuts that can be undone easily and transferred to a mobile stand.
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ (wa) - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:33

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:33
No No No.... any norty person will soon wonder of with your panel if your using wingnuts !!

Shown below, the 2 x ss Nylock nut & bolts I use can be replaced with 2 x keyed alike locks, for very easy removal by simply removing the right-angled 'bracket' and pulling the panel out from under the 4 x overhead clamping brackets welded on each side of the channel that the panel sits in and separated by a thin layer of 'poly' material to avoid any metal fatigue or rubbing of the panel on the alloy channel.

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Follow Up By: Findanomad - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:49

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:49
Perfect, exactly what i was trying to imagine. Would really appreciate a side photo next time you have the camera out. I assume that the panel 'slides' into the channel and under the clamps?
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Findanomad - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 16:12

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 16:12
Just went to your profile and saw the other photos - very impressive. The WA govt can call on you should they run out of pwer
Cheers
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Reply By: Motherhen - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 22:15

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 22:15
Hi Findanomad

Go for portable.

Our previous van was a wind-out camper. We got a solar panel (80w i think, but now we are not sure as it may be smaller), made a stand out of lightweight pine timber, and put it out to face the sun when stopped in the afternoon. Even late, it brought the charge up quickly compared to the vehicle trickle charge. We'd then put it facing east ready for the dawn. If we stopped for a few hours or so during the day to do a walk, we could connect it and put it on the camper roof but only bothered if we knew we would be setting up camp late. Charging one deep cyclce battery, it kept our upright Engel caravan fridge going, plus a couple of fluro lights.


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Follow Up By: Findanomad - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:49

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:49
Portable seems easier in terms of manouvering - how did you secure it to the camper while you were not there - to stop the light fingered people?
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Sep 27, 2008 at 23:07

Saturday, Sep 27, 2008 at 23:07
Something i never considered! I was aware of no security with canvas for the camper - anyone could easily cut their way in, but when visiting out of the way places, everyone there is like you and me - just good people there to see the national park, gorge or whatever.

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Reply By: Maîneÿ (wa) - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 17:14

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 17:14
Findanomad,
some pics for you to ponder
any questions or particular points you don't fully understand .. just ask :-)

The rear panel just slips in/out along the channel under the protruding lugs.
In the top two pics you can see where the locks used to fit instead of the bolts, I never had to remove the rear panel so I just replaced the 2 x locks with bolts to remove any temptation.

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Follow Up By: Findanomad - Monday, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:24

Monday, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:24
Thanks - these are great.
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