Landrover voted Greatest Car of all time

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:12
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I'm sure there are many that would disagree, however from 2 million sold over 55 years two-thirds are still on the road - can't argue with that I suppose.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 11:26

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 11:26
yes 2/3rds are on the road still, the other 1/3rd made it home.

Just cause you sell a lot of cars doesnt mean they are worth spitting on..
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Follow Up By: Brian - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 14:13

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 14:13
How many have you owned ????

Brian
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 15:53

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 15:53
Happy to say none, 13+ yrs in NSW Rural Fire Service is more than enough to know.. We had several go through our station, from series 1's in ute with trailer and water tank, right thru.

Thanks for asking :)
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Follow Up By: Brian - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 16:35

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 16:35
I have had 4 from 2a to 110 and worked on many more with mates!
Well from 5 years military and 10 mining exploration they are the easiest and cheapest vehicle to fix and maintain.
Landies are love hate thing. If you hate them then you hate them.
I would buy another for a work/Farm vehicle, would have bought the Disco this time but it was not big enough! the GU patrol 4.2 was the next best thing!!! And I love it however the fuel economy bits the wallet a bit!!
Just my opinion/experence...everyone's is different.

Brian
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Follow Up By: Westie - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 19:52

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 19:52
I'm sure for years now Toyota claim they are Australias biggest selling manufacturer......now thats a lot of spit!
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Follow Up By: Steve - Saturday, Aug 02, 2003 at 15:35

Saturday, Aug 02, 2003 at 15:35
A lot of spit in a small pond Westie. Jap-obsessed Oz is not representative of Europe where the Disco is the biggest selling off-roader or the US where (naturally) Jeep is king. I took a Prado (on hire) up the Bloomfield and though it performed well enough, tinny and lightweight doors compared with Disco which, according to reviews in Oz has a crappy fit/finish.
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Reply By: Savvas - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:43

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:43
You can argue with that result.

The poll was conducted by the BBC, it was therefore a UK poll, and it was from a panel of 9 pre-selected vehicles. How impartial it was is anyone's guess.

I can't argue that Land Rover is an icon but I wouldn't call it greatest car of all time.

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Reply By: Old Jack - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 13:00

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 13:00
I think the word "car" is being used a little loosely to describe the landrover
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Reply By: Member - Willem- Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 13:14

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 13:14
Oooooooooo...............Don't get Member-Bob started on this !!!!!Cheers, Willem
Never a dull moment
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Follow Up By: Member - Bob - Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:54

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:54
Willem, I'm always interested in informed debate, but not so keen on displays of bigotry. BTW I'm glad to learn that wheel on your bonnet is a spare and not just debris from a Toyo you cleaned up.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willem- Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:13

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:13
I went fishing and I got lucky again. But if you had said nothing I suppose I would have been disappointed. Thanks Bob. You have made my day !!
Cheers, Willem
Never a dull moment
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Reply By: Mark from Getaway Portable Refrigerator Hire - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 13:17

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 13:17
As voted by the UK Tow Truck Drivers Association.
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 13:59

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 13:59
actually Mark, contrary to popular belief, most post 1980s LandRover faults are niggling problems (particularly electrics) rather than catastrophic failures that stop a vehicle from proceeding. I would venture that the latter on a 200tdi Disco happen no more often than engine bearing/front diff/gearbox failures on 80 series LandCruisers...
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 15:57

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 15:57
Mark you hit it on the head dude! LOL..

Pathy..
Arent niggling little faults worse?? Never really getting them sorted out or knowing what they are?
You know when the conrod is hanging out the side of the block on the side of the Anne Biddell, you instantly know...
But if your trying to diagnose some electrical problem that may be this or maybe that for hours on end in the same heat...
Luck for cars they have fuses that blow...

I dont LOL!
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Follow Up By: FeralDisco - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 18:22

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 18:22
mmm, I think I would generally prefer a faulty electric window to a conrod hanging out the side of the block on the Anne Beadell...

if my only criteria in vehicle selection was reliability (and I realise this is a pretty important one with outback travel), I would own a GQ and indeed I looked at a few. However, they are very truck-like to drive compared to a Disco , uncomfortable seats and pretty average fuel economy (even in TD form). The Disco is a great car to drive and just as capable off road as a GQ...and the 200tdi's are actually quite reliable with good longevity (housemates has 400Kk on the clock; mine 250Kk and still going strong and getting 10k/l touch wood...)

it's interesting that GQs are much cheaper than their 80-series counterparts due to perceptions of quality/reliability based on the situation in the 80s. Discos are cheaper than equivalent Patrols for the same reason so there are many bargains with either compared to 80 series (which are certainly not the final word in reliability). I have to admit however that 300tdi Discos (94-98?) are potentially dodgy...

also interesting to note that the most common reasons for Simpson recoveries are suspension failure (overloaded vehicles regardless of brand, but vehicles which start heavy such as 100 series and GUs are the worst offenders - and I would argue also do most damage to tracks) and electronic engine management failure (a function of most newer vehicles). At the end of the day, I think most mechanically-controlled diesels made in the last 15 years and in lightly loaded vehicles with good tyres will prove fairly reliable...
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 20:47

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 20:47
Electric window probably, dust sucks, to the conrod yes. but a computer, or ignition fault?? No thanks.. One of them things you take back under warranty 393939393939393993939 times they never find it or they do a "we fixed it matey" situations yet still couldnt find anything.

Theres dodgey in all makes and models, just some are worse than otehrs
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Reply By: Member - Shawn - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 16:33

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 16:33
Been driving landrover for the last 24 years in the Army, wouldn't buy one!
We also use Troopies, ugly, but go anywhere, do anything asked of them. Considered buying one, but settled on 4.2TDi GU instead.
Just my thoughts
CheersKeep your powder dry
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Follow Up By: Hilly - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 18:40

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 18:40
Hey Shawn.

Just bought a rig that looks identical to yours except for the spotties. Where did you get the arab tail lights from and are they hard to fit? Is the wiring loom set up for them already? Can send reply to email to maintain the integrity of this thread.

hills1@iinet.net.au
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Reply By: Member - Russell - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 16:59

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 16:59
British engineering - that just about sums it up......... latest example I heard of was in the Hawk trainer aircraft - to do a simple one hour job on a system in the tail requires you to first remove the whole tail! Sound familiar?Russell S
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Follow Up By: Member - Bob - Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:57

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:57
Some of its British. TD5 donk is German.
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Reply By: Member - dolfn - Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 08:41

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 08:41
100 000km in three years and still going strong. Doesnt owe me a cent and has suffered some abuse. Don't knock what you dont know. I did 12 years in the army and thought the LRs were great so I bought one and in a few years time, if the wife lets me, will buy another. Sure it aint as big or as powerful as a 4.2l TD Land Cruiser, but I get over 100km/ 10l of diesel.

Why dont all you jap crap owners get off you @##$% high horses and let the LR owners have their day in sun.

Dont knock what you don't know.

See you on our travels

H,K & A
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Follow Up By: Alan H - Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 13:49

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 13:49
Now now dolfn, don't get upset with the chrildren. Let them play.
I've had a 300 Tdi Disco and it was reliable, didn't leak oil except from the rocker cover, and was comfortable and economic.
Now I've got a Defender TD5 and it suffers from the same couldn't care less build quality of most LR's.
But I'll keep it as it's a good performer in the rough, even if it maybe won't climb large sand dunes, but then I don't buy things to satisfy the ignorant attitudes of the loud mouths.
For those who think the Td5 engine is German you'd better think again, as it was past the design stage long before BMW took over, and they did nothing except introduce the "HAIR DRESSERS " vehicle, the Freelander.
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:53

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:53
I'm sure the LD Defender mob we came across at Ningaloo will be pleased to hear that. Even with about 10lb in their tyres and a number of attempts they couldn't get up and over the dune that we climbed first time with 25lb in our tyres. Last I saw of them they had backtracked to the beach to find an alternative route.

Can't argue though that the Landies are an outback icon. And I have very fond memories of flogging my great uncles old landy around his farm when I was a kid.

:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
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