which 4 x 4

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 16:34
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Hi,

I am looking to get a 4 x 4 for the family. Sand work mainly - probably up north. I have had a 92 paj before but just lost so much on the resale. I am thinking of getting a 89 or 90 V6 model. But I dont know what goes wrong with them and how they compare to a Rangy or Jackaroo of the same era. There doesnt seem to be that much difference in $. Safety is also a big issue as I have a young family. Apparently the 92 paj roof pillars collapse if rolled and I was wondering whether the 89/90 models were stronger.

Basically I dont want to spend much above $8500. I know this is not much but I think you can get a good reliable bus for this amount. I have looked at the Nissans Patrols but feel its just to much car for us as a far bit of driving will be on road.
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Reply By: Member - Bill- Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 17:39

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 17:39
IMHO If looking around '90, Go the Jack. Slightly bigger inside, newer tech motor (than the competition) at that time, very reliable/serviceable/capable/durable and well priced. Basically the same model is still on sale now.Regds

Bill
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Reply By: Member - Willem- Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 19:11

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 19:11
Find yourself a good 60 series Diesel Landcruiser. You can't go wrong.
Cheers, Willem
Never a dull moment
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Follow Up By: Member - Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 20:01

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 20:01
Agree with Willem, $8500 will get u a tidy 60 series diesel, will do the job admirably.

All the Nissan bestSo many places to go!
So much work to do :0(
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Follow Up By: Big John (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 20:59

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 20:59
I would agree with the others, the 60 series cruisers are a great tough old truck. Most now require new springs and shocks and a bit of work on the steering but a couple of grand will do this and you have a 4x4 that will serve you will for years and with the new suspension and steering will drive great.

john
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Follow Up By: Old Jack - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 21:56

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 21:56
you should factor spending money on any rig in around this price range/age. They all wear out & break down eventually, take what you can afford to spend & subtract $2000.00 & use that for your buy price. you might get lucky & find something in good order. If needed a set of tyres, a few new shocks and a full service will eat most of that buget up, Happy hunting
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Reply By: greenant - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 20:18

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 20:18
I'm up north and have a 60 series diesel can't beat it also toyota parts available everywhere even on old ones, buy something which has a bit of age on it and parts might not be available on other brands

HJ60 diesel wagon
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Reply By: Eric - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 21:49

Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003 at 21:49
Sorry boys but I am sure to upset some one here , if your buget in 8.5 k dont buy and old diesel . My experience is that if you dont know the owner of that diesel dont buy the car. I will agree that if maintained properly diesels live for ever. The problem these days is alot of diesel cars are driven in the city (stop start) and there have been some shocking fuel's around destroing pumps ext . If you can only afford 8 k for a car then you will hate to pay 2 k for a timing pump or 8 k for a replacement motor . The paj is a great family car and a very capable 4x4 , the only problem is that you cannot run it on gas . I think all 4 L land cruisers are gutless & guslers Rang rovers well lets just not go there lol . If you live in Melbourne I could probabably help you find something that suits you can email me ay wholesalecars@optusnet.com.au
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Follow Up By: Andrew(Vic) - Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:05

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:05
Unless you buy 4x4 from a postcard , you get a vehicle checked either it is 8.5K or 45K vehicle.
It its old it does not mean its crap and if its brand new it still can be a lemon.
4l diesels Cruisers are not guslers and 10-11l/ 100kms is normal.
Gutless at 75KW they are but engines are simple and easy to fix or modify.
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Follow Up By: Eric - Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 16:54

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 16:54
the block wants a family car to take the kids for a bit of a play on sand ect , if he wanted a serious 4x4 I would agree with you > horses for courses
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Reply By: cam42 - Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:22

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:22
Hey,

Thanks for all the info.

I have had a look at the Tojo's but hey they are a tuff car to be driving the kids to and fro from kindy and the ones I have looked at around that price have huge kms.

The gas thing is great info, I didnt know you couldnt put Paj's on gas. Things for us seem to be pushing toward a Jackaroo Diesel or a Nissan Diesel. But this wont give me much change from $13,500. Thats the thing again you can spend $4K on an old bus and it will give you no trouble and a $30K rig can cost a fortune - luck of the draw.

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Follow Up By: Eric - Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 16:51

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 16:51
you should be able to buy a good nissan 88 to 90 model for around 8 to 10 k any more is known in our thade as drug money
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Follow Up By: zigglemeister - Friday, Aug 01, 2003 at 14:22

Friday, Aug 01, 2003 at 14:22
I'm not sure what year models people are talking here, but you *can* put Pajero 3500 V6's on gas - a mate has one. It's a very cramped installation, but it can be done.
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Follow Up By: Eric - Friday, Aug 01, 2003 at 16:07

Friday, Aug 01, 2003 at 16:07
it has nothing to do with the gas instolation actually fitting in the car , its got to do with the metals that the heads and valves are made of . Its just a fact that Mitzos cannot handle gas , in 2000 Mitz prodused a 3.5 that was there answer to there gas problem but stopped marketting it as a gas motor after there problems didnt go away .
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Reply By: flappan - Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 16:34

Thursday, Jul 31, 2003 at 16:34
Well I've got a 1990 NG V6 Pajero.

I also have 4 kids.

Its starting to get a bit small for teenagers on long trips, but locally goes well.

The NG came with the Canter gearbox and is basically built proof. As for the V6. Cant complain too much. Goes really well, but needs to up in the revs to move it along. Mind you, thats only the way I drive it.

The only issue with them, and typical of Bishi, is that the motors do have a life cycle. Mostly 250 to 300 k's. Not major work required, but the usual freshen up stuff.

I blew a head gasket on mine, and ended up being cheaper to put in a low k's imported motor then to rebuild the existing one.

Goes easily on the beach, follows plenty of the bigger 4bys around with little to no probs. Would I recommend them. Yep.

Question though, don't really know about the "safety" asspect as such, but, do you need the very rear seats ??? If not a proper cargo barrier works wonders as a type of "roll cage".
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Reply By: cam42 - Monday, Aug 04, 2003 at 11:35

Monday, Aug 04, 2003 at 11:35
I think I will start looking at a Jap import - the 1990 Prado looks prity speccy...
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Reply By: cam42 - Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 14:46

Thursday, Aug 07, 2003 at 14:46
I decided to buy a 1993 Nissan Terrano (import), all reports seemed fine. Difficult to get parts - but not the engine as they are basically a Navara. Feul economy is not great for a diesel - but still good in comparison.

Fingers crossed - bring it on!!!

Hey this is a great forum!!
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Reply By: Dan - Sunday, Aug 10, 2003 at 10:34

Sunday, Aug 10, 2003 at 10:34
I think you have made a good decision in buying a terrano, i own a 92 model and am very happy with it. i get around 9 k's per litre around town and 12 plus on the open road sitting on 100kph. I am starting to get a few small rust spots in the lower body so i'd recomend getting it rust profed. i do all servicing myself and it quite easy. remember to let the turbo cool down afer a long trip or running it hard, 1-2 minutes is adequite
hope you get many years of enjoyment out of her.

Dan.

p.s how much did u end up paying for it, if you got it for $8500 thats a steal, or has it done a few K's, myn was reading 86000 when i bought it and is now reading 143000.
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