2000 3lt patrol

What a line up of lemons Phil! Fortunately it's only a very small part of the available vehicles and nowhere near "just about every manufacturer". Must say though that some develop a poor reputation and Land Rover and Nissan are certainly top of the list for 4wds!!

Phil,

You forgot the EA Falcon. We had the misfortune of owning one which kept us broke for years and was worth nothing even as a trade on a $45K car. Hubby will NEVER by another Ford as a result of that experience.

:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper

I have had ef, el, auII auIII and soon a BA and have had fantastic runs from them, rolled thm over at 90000/100000 kms and no probelsm with any of them lucky or fortunate??
So many places to go!
So much work to do :0(

Hi Bonz,

Yes but if you'd had the misfortune of owning an EA then you never would have owned any of the others...

:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper

You made me grin relaxed. No problems except for an alternator failure - you my friend are one of the many who've had a problem and it's quite misleading to say "have not had any probs." You've had a problem that would have been catastrophic had you been in a remote area! Can I compare it to a dog that never bites anyone except for once it took my arm off LOL! Don't make excuses for your vehicle - the alternator should not fail under at least 200,000km, neither should 5th gear, nor the suspension etc etc

Mick
I think we have to be realistic here. I'm yet to find something new that doesn't have some type of teething problems these days and that goes for anything- cars, 4wds, boats and motors, motor bikes etc,etc. I'm not making excuses for the manufacturers, but it seems to be a part of the times these days. I bought a brand new 35hp johno outboard for my boat 3 yrs ago and the black box bleep itself (luckly I was still at the boat ramp) and then there was a design fault with the oil injection unit and the manufacturer instructed the dealers to remove them (no replacement). What about all the Fords and Holdens out there and the teething probs they have on occassions. My neighbour bought a new Holden SS a couple years ago and the black box bleep itself and I have other friends who swear that they will never buy another Ford because of the workmenship was just too poor. Yes, I agree, these things shouldn't happen,but they do.
My experience with the alternator, I believe would not have been too catostrophic in the middle of no where. The engine management system simply places the engine into slow mode (until the battery ran out of juice)and that probably would have got me out of trouble to within some type of communication distance (hopefully).
Mike, all I'm trying to get across here is it doesn't help being pessimistic and dwelling on what might go wrong. If that was the case, I doubt if anyone would be game enough to venture too far from home. I'm not being an ostrich here and sticking my head in the sand, I'm aware of the potential problems and if I have a problem eg 5th gear, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
But hey, least I got a smile on your dial.
Optimisum, not pessimium is the way to go.
Relaxed

My GUII has been wonderful since they replaced the turbo at 1946 km's, oh and the rear door seal, I love it thoSo many places to go!
So much work to do :0(

Hi Clive, I gotta smile when you say the 3.0L engine doesnt blow smoke. As ive got a GU4,2 td,and spend 180ks a day on the freeway i see a few of these vehicles, i dont believe they are any better than the 4.2td. The intercooler on my new patrol probably reduces any smoke to an acceptable level. Give me the 4.2 any day.

the ext. warranty is a great idea but if you read the fine print once you put seat covers on the seats you void the warranty. I've now read of a few cases where nissan have fixed problems out of warranty due to not wanting any more bad publicity on known problems. But all that aside i think thay are a great rig and mine has done 80000 kms without missing a beat.More drive'n less talk'n

Graeme

I'm just about to put Cooper 265/75's on my 3.0td (manual).

How are they going for wear etc. Would you recommend them over the standard 265/70's ??

Cheers
Andrew

Andrew
I have so far only done 6000km on them over both bitumun and gravel, buth wet and dry, and have been suitably impressed. As for wear I am unable to tell, but the dealer and others who have had them, say 100,000Km is not unreasonable. Be aware they do get up a bit of a growl on the tar. I did also get a full alignment as well
Cheers,
Graeme