Hilux v prado

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hi guys, still on the hunt for a new vehicle, not sure wheather a prado diesel or hilux diesel, any clues as to fuel consumption for both and cost of maintenance
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Reply By: Madfisher - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:48

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:48
As they run the same motors and transmissions their is no diff. Prados give a very soft ride as they have coils at the rear and are better off road then the luxs. The luxs have leaves for load carrying, although on a windy twisty road I prefer the stiffer lux suspension. We have both vehicles at work.
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Reply By: Wizard1 - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:54

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:54
I already have a Prado TD and have looked at replacing it with a dual cab TD from a variety of manufacturers. It came down to several common criteria, least of which was fuel consumption.

Prados
Do already have 180 fuel capacity
Are easier to fit out with accessories like dual battery without unnecessary fitting of the battery under the body or in the tray
Have a higher tow capacity than the Hilux


Hilux
Are essentially a work vehicle and aren't built to be setup as long distance tourers without a lot of mucking around and extra cost.

But that is just my opinion. I'm keeping the Prado as it would be too hard and expensive to setup any dual cab ute to the standard I require for long distance touring and off road work.
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Reply By: neilbis - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 15:56

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 15:56
Prado's are definately nicer on road, nicer inside, better looking etc.

But anyone who thinks the prado is better offroad is dreaming. Standard the hilux is a few hundred kgs lighter (200-300 kg) and very slighty more ground clearance. We have hilux and prado work cars that we take out fishing crabbing and its always the prado's that get stuck first.

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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 18:07

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 18:07
Not sure I agree with you 100% there Neilbis, I have been off road in the prado, also with two of the later model T/D hilux's (extra cabs) and where I got through/up (yes with front wheel lifting here and there same as hilux's) one of the hilux's couldnt. Prado's have a heap more rear flex in the rear then a hilux which is where I had the advantage as the wheel was able to still be on the ground and get me through where as the hilux had no wieght in the back and was skipping left to right (LSD was obvioulsy working unusual for a toyota lsd LOL) but not making forward movement. The hilux that had the canopy and some weight in the back managed to get up I think due to the weight in the rear. Both run the same IFS front end. I think both as capable as each other. Not really relating to your answer but in general coil all round on live axles front and back in my opinion will never be beaten in standard form and even IFS with mods wont match that of coils and live axled vehicles. Just my opinin. WHG
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Follow Up By: neilbis - Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 at 14:47

Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 at 14:47
Whenever we go on runs (every weekend or two as we live in the pilbara) we always have gear in the back of either cars (esky, 2nd spare,recovery gear, water etc) so this tends to settle the tail end of the 'lux (which can be a bit loose on gravel if theres nothing in the back). U'd be mad not to have anything :)

Our runs are more generally along beaches, gravel roads and through the beloved mud but we generally arent climbing big obstacles. FOr these purposes our group all think the lux goes harder

i agree with you there with live axles
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Reply By: Pebble - Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:43

Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:43
We've got a Dual Cab Hilux (with a tray). We have had an 80 series crusier and then a Subaru Forester (yeah that was a mistake). Hubby has his 79 series ute which he loves to death.

The TD Lux was the car we should have brought in the first place. It's versatile (I can chuck my mountain bike in the back and go riding), we can carry home whatever DH decides to buy at bunnings without it sitting near the kids heads. And the zippy response of the turbo engine quite surprises me (probably because it is a lighter vehicle) and handling is way better than the heavy 80 ever was especially when cornering. But yes the rear end likes to drift more easily around corners on gravel roads (no problem if you keep the speed in check) than the Subi which was a really stable car.

I don't know the detailed numbers, but I bet the Hilux probably has more load capacity too (GVM) if you're to rig it up for touring.
If you're looking at the wellbody then security for the gear won't be a problem, but could be an issue if you opt for a trayback without canopy - this would be the only drawback for us I think, but a non issue most of the time since we live in the country.

Good point on the IFS suspension, but really how serious off road are you? I know a lot of people (including us) like to think they will do a lot more than eventuates in reality.

I reckon it comes down to what you find more comfortable / practical for both traveling and day to day duties you have to do.


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Follow Up By: Wherehegon - Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 at 16:29

Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 at 16:29
Hi there Pebble, "" I reckon it comes down to what you find more comfortable / practical for both traveling and day to day duties you have to do "" agree definately, and the lux does have more load capacity as well. I myself miss the lux for the exact same reason, carrying stuff etc and not having to worry about scratching the interior of the prado. My old lux had live axle front and back so this is where I do notice the difference between the live and IFS. As you have mentioned depending on your needs to what vehicle you require. I would have no issues with a lux for touring. About the only real issue they have is the week front diffs but that is only if your lifting front wheels alot and coming back down biting the dust but this can be over come with a locker if need be once again depending on your needs. If people really want to go rock hopping I think the best vehicle's for this are the 4wd's with live axles front & back either coil or leaf coil being the best eg, patrols, cruisers, rangie's. WHG
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Follow Up By: Pebble - Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 at 22:34

Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 at 22:34
It's kind of funny I suppose, when we first started looking around at them I was wondering why there were no coils at the front (being used to the front end of the 79) I think I told hubby that we can't possibly buy a car that doesn't have either coil springs or leafs springs at the front (yeah the leaf springs on the front are silly women thinking!).

He reckons I shouldn't be telling people that the 79 series is our "retirement" car. I suppose because that's at least hmmm 15 plus years away! But it's true that's the plan and in the meantime it's his baby.
The Lux is the family car. Mind you he calls them " bleep luxes" because he's always been a Cruiser Man, ha ha ha it's funny that now he finally drives one! I love it, it doesn't have a real "truck" feel like the 79 does, and it's not as heavy which feels better to me.
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