Rangie engine conversion
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 05, 2003 at 22:13
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Martyn (WA)
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Well as some of you will be aware I WAS looking at putting a 350 chev into my "project" Rangie, I recieved the paperwork back from our local licensing dept today and as of now the project is on hold, the list of "stuff" I have to do to get the old girl LEGALLY over the pits is long and varied, as mentioned by other members of the
forum. I was given a list by the licensing dept, emission requirements, brake power checks after the conversion which I found a really handy suggestion (not), noise checks and finally a signed off check by a chartered engineer familiar with the ADR standards, that sounded cheap, the nightmare trying to find an adapter kit and the right gearbox to get the power to the under engineered running gear has turned me off the idea, to hard basket. Even if I do the conversion and they check the fourby over and find any other faults all these have to be put right before I get the certificate, Truckster you where right $16,000 is or should I say was looking possible, luckily my outlay so far is relatively small.
Thanks to all for the help, I'll have some fun as it is with the Rangie, If I get second gear when the box is cold I'm going to buy a Lotto ticket..................Keep the shiny side up
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 05, 2003 at 22:25
Tuesday, Aug 05, 2003 at 22:25
What about a Rangie 4.4 alloy motor???
could be a cheap replacement, adn give you power, they weigh nothing, sell the Chev...
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 05, 2003 at 22:39
Tuesday, Aug 05, 2003 at 22:39
Yeap, "I took this on board" I hate that saying.......... My intention is to continue to build the Chev engine and as you say sell it, then I'll look at plan B which could well be the 4.4 motor or something such similar, they didn't seem to be readily availible here in
Perth, I don't think I was looking hard enough, maybe. Catch you, thanksKeep the shiny side up
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Reply By: Eric - Tuesday, Aug 05, 2003 at 23:09
Tuesday, Aug 05, 2003 at 23:09
Sorry but I seam to be on the tail end of this subject . If you have a range rover why did you want a engineering certificate ?? you dont need one as long as you use a engineered adaptor plate , From my days of conversions I seem to remeber that you needed a full report only when fiting into a vehicle that wasnt intended for a V8 . Youe emition problems are also easily fixed by running it on gas when it gets tested :-) Now with your G box selecting second when cold is usually because you have the wrong oil in it ,
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 05, 2003 at 23:19
Tuesday, Aug 05, 2003 at 23:19
THese days you need engineers for fitting a flamming different
seat..
Engines, bigger than X% over standard you need engineers, and all sorts of reports..
Varys from state to state.
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Follow Up By: Eric - Tuesday, Aug 05, 2003 at 23:23
Tuesday, Aug 05, 2003 at 23:23
I just went through the
seat thing , trying to fit xr8 seats to the 80 . The handbrake hates the original , I probably dont blame her
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2003 at 08:47
Wednesday, Aug 06, 2003 at 08:47
Eric,
This is what I thought, but when you increase the horse's you also need a certificate, going from around 150 ish to near 270 ish, plus there is the weight factor going from an ally engine to a cast iron engine, I never realised until I started on this project how heavy a Rangie actually is I was quite surprised, especially with the ally body and engine. The regs changed here in WA in 2002 and from all my findings things are a lot tighter, the carby was another issue, I never knew that Holley's were not street legal, apart from not being to good on steep bits, my idea was just to stick a Holley on and off we go, sorry wrong, it's even written on the box the carby comes in "Not for street use", I then started the search for a Rochester four barrel, yea right that's easy, so is finding a dizzy that isn't the size of a dinner plate with vacuum control on it, the one I looked at had the coil on the top and was huge, at least I would been able to keep it dry inside the cab with the family, plus I would be able to adjust the ignition timing from inside the fourby on the road.
The Rover asthma unit is staying right where it is for now Keep the shiny side up
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2003 at 08:55
Wednesday, Aug 06, 2003 at 08:55
Eric,
Oh and by the way, the oil in the gearbox was correct as far as I know, there seemed to be a theory about putting thinner oil in as the gearbox got older, not to sure about this one............ I'm using Royal Purple Max - Gear now and it's made a truck load of difference, much better. I use this Royal Purple stuff in my Nissan as well, made gear changes a lot easier and the gearbox / transer case also runs cooler about 10 degrees. The only problem I've found is the smell, when the gearbox is running hard either on sand or extended hills I get a slight hypoidy type smell in the cab, soon goes when the load comes off. Keep the shiny side up
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Reply By: EvIlBoYsPaWnEd - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2003 at 13:01
Wednesday, Aug 06, 2003 at 13:01
Would it be any easier buying a vehicle with a V8 and turning it into a 4x4 ?
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Reply By: REXY - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2003 at 15:46
Wednesday, Aug 06, 2003 at 15:46
hi Martyn, im definalty in on the back side of this debate.....but what about somethinglike the fuel injected ( i duck wating for the flack over that comment) 5 ltr (303 ish) from the VN / VS / VP commodore ?????.one of my mates bought a rollux with one already fitted (gloss over that little bit of info) and it goes like the clappers if memory serves you can get one for aprox 5 k from a wreckers.....just a sugestion
rexy
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Follow Up By: Disco Duc - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2003 at 20:10
Wednesday, Aug 06, 2003 at 20:10
Martyn,
Not sure how much help this might be but if you contact Russell Watkins at AWD Automotive in Melton (Vic) he might be able to provide some advice re changing over to a commodore engine. I'm pretty sure he has had experience doing similar with Rangies he's involved with. His phone number is (03)9747 8044.
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