Low water alarm for boat
Submitted: Monday, Dec 01, 2008 at 20:23
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Louie the fly (SA)
Does anyone know of a good low
water alarm for boats? I'm preferably after a through the hull type.
Considering the low
water levels in the Murray at the moment I don't want to risk any damage.
Reply By: Member - Keith C (NSW) - Monday, Dec 01, 2008 at 21:44
Monday, Dec 01, 2008 at 21:44
Louie, any over the counter depth sounder/fishfinder will have a shallow
water alarm in its program.Then its up to you how you install the transducer.
regards Keith C
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Reply By: Dunaruna - Monday, Dec 01, 2008 at 21:45
Monday, Dec 01, 2008 at 21:45
Most (if not all) FF's have low
water alarms, all FF's have a choice of thru-hull or transom mount transducers.
I have the cheapest garmin on the market (F80), cost about $150. It has an adjustable visual and audible low
water alarm.
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Reply By: Louie the fly (SA) - Monday, Dec 01, 2008 at 21:53
Monday, Dec 01, 2008 at 21:53
Thanks for the suggestions but I'm not after a fish finder. I just want a dedicated shallow
water alarm for my ski boat. I know Navman make one but I cant find any info on it. I believe it doesn't come with the transducer - an extra.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Dec 01, 2008 at 23:57
Monday, Dec 01, 2008 at 23:57
Use a Stick.... very cheap . tie it to the front of the boat in a vertical position.
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Follow Up By: handy - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 07:08
Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 07:08
just go harder, the faster you go the less
water you need. lol
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Follow Up By: bruce - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 09:54
Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 09:54
If it does not come with the transducer , how on earth can it work...excuse my ignorance but I was of the belief that the transducer picked up the bounced signals returning from the bottom or whatever they hit on the way down ,fish, snags ,rocks....etc...how could it be called or sold as a low
water level alarm without one ?....cheers
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Reply By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 01:02
Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 01:02
Crikey Doug,
You Terrry Torians could become more of a problem than cane toads.
Flamin crow-eaters! Sheesh!!
Seems I'd best give Dusty a call, eh; keep the ole feller on slim rations.
Till later Doug.
JnJ
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Reply By: Member - Matt (Perth-WA) - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 12:58
Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 12:58
Louie the only one I can find is the Navman FISH FINDER. Does what you are asking but it is still classed as a fish finder.
Running my old Quintrex with a hummingbird (entry level) fish finder they were only good at low speed.
At high speed the airation under the hull disrupts the signal and it a jumble. I found that the use of the low
water level was only appropriate at low speed and believe that is not effective for your use as a skiboat.
Maybe the tri band (three signals one back one forward and the usual one down) ones are more suitable but the price relative.
Navman
Matt.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt (Perth-WA) - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 13:03
Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 13:03
Louie they changed their name... Now NORTHSTAR Marine!!
Try this
NorthStar Low Water
Matt.
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Reply By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 17:25
Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 17:25
Louie,
You don't need to purchase a specific transducer to "shoot" through the hull. Prior manufacturers designing transducers specially for transom mounting it was up to the purchaser to decide how they wished to go about the exercise.
Transom Mount:
Fabricate your own bracket to support the transducer over the side of the boat. Most were stern mounted however it was not unusual to for some to be suspended over the side of the boat or even over the bow.
Through the hull:
Fabricate a "well" in the bilge into which the transducer was mounted, this involved a hit and miss guess as to the correct mounting angle. The
well was then filled with pure silicon, very expensive, or light mineral oil and sealed off.
I have seen through hull transducers shooting through both fibre glass and aluminium hulls. The alloy boat I saw was an early 17' Quintrex running out of
Batemans Bay.
The common factor with all these vessels was that no one expected any readings at any more than a fast idle.
The first thing that kills of a sounder reading are the microscopic air bubbles being drawn through under the hull.
I've spent an enormous amount of time adjusting transducer heights and angles so as the get readable results at the highest possible speeds. I would also claim to have achieved above average results. These results however are no where near the speeds required to tow a basic
water skier and certainly not near that required to satisfy na above averge skier.
Not wishing to chuck cold
water on your exercise, however I really believe that you will be very disappointed in the result after spending your money.
Ian
Ian
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Reply By: Louie the fly (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 17:40
Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 17:40
Thanks for all the replies (yep, even yours Doug)... After speaking to a guy today with a high end wakeboarding boat that has a factory fitted job, he's confirmed that it is a WOFTAM at anything over about 15 kph, which goes without saying really. I suppose I will just keep a keen eye out for shallow
water and put the money saved towards beer and prawns.
I might try the stick method though.
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 18:25
Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 18:25
A long stick ... angled
well out in front .... lol
Being a ski boat I can only imagine that the travelling speeds are going to make it difficult to slow up in time for an obstacle anyway ... in addition to the interference to depthfinder readings.
The idea is right ... but might be better to do a slow run, dangling a broom handle "testing the waters" so to speak, prior to opening it up ......
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Follow Up By: Louie the fly (SA) - Wednesday, Dec 03, 2008 at 20:46
Wednesday, Dec 03, 2008 at 20:46
It's not so much that I need to go "oops - low
water, better stop". It's more that we do a lot of low speed stuff with the kids wakeboarding and falling off lots. Really only for when travelling at slow speeds <10 kph while turning, picking up, etc.
Although we have been going to the same place for nearly 25 years I've noticed some things in the
water during past 2 years that I've never seen there before, including sandbars.
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Reply By: Dunaruna - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 18:14
Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 18:14
A
water depth monitor is a sonar. A fish finder is a sonar. Same dog, different name. A small FF can be programed to just show a digital depth reading (with alarm). You don't have to have the picture of the fish/bottom/thermoclynes (sp)...........
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Reply By: techo2oz - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 20:10
Tuesday, Dec 02, 2008 at 20:10
Whitworths stock a Raymarine ST40 depth guage. Not real cheap at $299 but comes with transducer.
Part number 47170N might be worth contacting them for more info?
Peter
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Dec 03, 2008 at 23:10
Wednesday, Dec 03, 2008 at 23:10
Most depth sounders only tell you why you ran aground, in the situation you describe you really need a "forward looking" sonar.
SEE HERE
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