1HZ filter changing
Submitted: Friday, Dec 12, 2008 at 22:38
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Member - Ian H (NSW)
Has any
bright spark worked out a good way of containing/catching the oil that comes from the filter when you screw it off?
I already punch a hole in the top end to drain it but still end up dripping a bit.
Reply By: Member - Bucky, the "Mexican"- Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 06:07
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 06:07
Ian
Try changing the filters on a 4.2 TD Patrol.
Unbelievable mess.
I'm still working on that one, but I have discovered that using freezer bags over the filter and locating it into such a position, ie over the lip of the filter, on
the block.
Gently cracking the filter seal, to let the oil out slowly into the freezer bag. I expect I would only splash 1/2 the amount of oil over everything.
Then I will go to " PLAN - Z"
Cheers and good luck
Bucky
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 06:58
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 06:58
Ian,
The Toyota oil filter is designed to hold oil in the filter, it helps with the lack of oil pressure when starting the motor.
Well that is what Mr Toyota says about the genuine filter.
So one solution to your problem is to use a cheap and nasty filter.
The way the filter is positioned on
the block you would think that the oil would just run from the filter but it does appear to defy gravity.
I try and change the oil when the motor is still warm and also let the oil drain over night. This is not always practical but when I have done this, there is still a drop of oil coming from the drain plug and a little bit of oil in the filter.
I just remove the filter as quick as I can and wipe away any oil that leaks out.
And another thing, when I had the 80 Series with the 1HZ turbo, it took a neat 10lt of oil. I bought a 10 lt container and poured it in. No mess, no part filled oil container, no measuring.
When the waste oil was poured back into the old 10lt container I had a idea if the motor was using any oil between changes.
Now, with the 78 Series with the factory turbo motor it takes 11lt of oil, what a pain, and you should try and get the filter out when you have a dual battery set up. Getting the filter loose is not that bad now that I have a Toyota socket that fits the top of the filter, but to get the filter out from between the batteries and
the block, don't get me started.
I know it is not your fault and has nothing to do with your problem but I do feel better now.
Wayne
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Reply By: Ray - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:03
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:03
Very few of the vehicle manufacturers consider maintenance of their vehicles least of all oil filters. I am certain that with a bit of thought better arrangements could be made. Does anybody remember when filters had a nut on the end?
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Reply By: troopyman - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:12
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:12
If you put a nappy bucket under the sump plug , 12ltrs i think and then a sump oil pan beside it under the oil filter this will catch the filter oil and the nappy bucket has enough capacity to hold the troopy oil . You need to juggle them around a bit because there is not much distance between the sump plug and
the spot where the oil runs down the engine block and onto the ground .
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Reply By: Member - Paul W (VIC) - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:42
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:42
I country member if the 1HZzzz filter is on a 45 facing down like the FTE as
mine has
the drip tray from factory under it, if they are mounted like such maybe fit this tray on yours?? thoughts?
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Follow Up By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 09:00
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 09:00
Yep, my 2003 1HZ model has a drip/catch tray under the filter.I usually fold a rag up in it and simply wipe it out once the new filter is on.
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Reply By: happytravelers - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:45
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:45
G'day Ian
As someone else has already mentioned I always let the oil drain overnight on my own vehicle from a hot engine, and then take the filter off in the morning, very little mess. The 1HZ has one of the easy filters to change, some of the other vehicle makes are very difficult, Nissan D40 and R51 in both petrol and diesel are particularly bad. Working as a mechanic I often wonder how some people manage to change filters at
home without the use of a hoist etc.
All the best Jon
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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:49
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:49
Hi All
Some time back, a bloke on the
Forum said he used to take the
Sump Plug out, then drain the oil, while it was still hot, then he
would turn over the motor for about (10 seconds) this would drain
the remaining oil out of the filter, he reckoned there was still
enough oil coating all the bits to stop any damage,
Who is game to try it?.
Cheers
Daza
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Reply By: Maîneÿ (wa) - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:59
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 08:59
When I change my diesels oil filter I use 'plastic shopping bags' - you put your hand into one bag (so no HOT oil gets on you) and let the filter fall into another shopping bag, this one also catching the loose oil in one process as it falls into a container under the sump, then you remove the sump plug, so you don't have the filter dropping into a container full of hot oil.
Mainey . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 09:16
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 09:16
Thanks for all those ideas. I like the plastic shopping bags one best and will try it next time.
Ian
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Reply By: long haired nomad - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:26
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:26
Gday Ian,
I dont know if this idea will work on a cruiser but on my hilux i put one of those chinese takeaway rectangle containers under the filter , resting it on
the block and chassis and it catches all the oil when i take it off.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 16:21
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 16:21
Buy factory filters and dont help the oil drain....that only allows the oil to spill...a factory filter seals most of the oil inside it so minimal falls out...punch a hole in it and it all drains out as air can get in
Andrew
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Reply By: Off-track - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 17:56
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 17:56
The early 1HZ's dont have the oil catch tray next to the filter, but you can get them and retrofit.
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Reply By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 21:28
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 21:28
Ian,
If your has a catch can/drip tray arrangement, one way is to remove it and drill a hole in the bottom, then braze a barbed hose fitting into it. Then run a hose down in the engine bay so it can be directed in to the bucket with all the other black oil.
I got this idea from a mate, but as yet haven't got around to doing it myself. Apparently it works very
well.
Cheers,
Mark
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Reply By: hazo - Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 22:26
Saturday, Dec 13, 2008 at 22:26
On my old 1HZ I used to use the bottom of a 2ltr milk container, as the plastic is fairly soft it is easy to position under filter lip and unscrew filter and drop in the container with the oil, then gently manoever out and into oil pan.
The top half of same 2ltr plastic milk container also makes a good screw in funnel to fill new oil back without spilling all over the engine.
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Reply By: x4by4 - Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 00:34
Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 00:34
I use a 3 L plastic yoget container (Pauls). You need to cut it to reduce the height of the container.
It will fit below the oil filter and I have very little or no oil to wipe away when changing the filter.
HTH,
Peter B. 80 series 1Hz
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Reply By: echelon - Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 22:32
Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 22:32
G'day guys.
I drilled a hole in the pan and soft soldered a brass barbed fitting, then some 1/4 inch tube cable tied to terminate down near the sump plug, like the 120 Prado. Works ok...
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