Pt Culver to Israelite Bay issues

Submitted: Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 09:24
ThreadID: 64252 Views:4274 Replies:3 FollowUps:5
This Thread has been Archived
Hi all,
Have just returned from doing the telegraph track from Eucla to Israelite Bay. Does it ever stop raining out there? Geez, we encountered some mud! And the heaviest rain and hail I've seen in a long while.
Anyway, did the track from east to west coz of the steep dunes at Pt Culver where one goes from above the cliffs down Wylie Scarp onto the beach; ie, easier this way. But some kind people have installed rubber belting down the sandy slope, and it's a dream going either way now. There's a bit of a drop at the bottom of the belting were runoff has eroded the sand away, but nothing a 4wd can't handle.
But our run on the 90km beach was thwarted by lots of seaweed. Normally, the seaweed is prevalent from Israelite Bay for about 20km eastwards. This year, the seaweed started about 25km from the Pt Culver end and by the time we got to Wattle Camp (half way) we were stopped by deep seaweed right up to the base of the low dunes. Our plan-B was to drive inland at Wattle Camp and pick up the telegraph track there thru to Israelite Bay, but the rain had left the normally-dry salt lakes inundated with half a kilometre of water, so we were thwarted again. And we weren't going to blast a new track thru the dunes. So it was back to Pt Culver, up to the highway and round the long way. Bummer!
But looking back at our situation at the time, it was a neap tide, and it is possible that with a high/low tide cycle, one could probably drive below the seaweed with the tide right out. We certainly weren't going to push our luck at the time with the current tide cycle.
Interestingly, while driving the beach, we spotted a large roo in the water, looking very wet and bedraggled. Strange, we thought, then we saw a dingo running away from the scene. So either the dingo had cornered the roo into the water, and was waiting for it to weaken with cold, or the roo was cleverly getting the upper hand of the dingo by doing this. On our return run, the roo was at the base of the dunes, drying out, and the dingo had gone.
While out there, a guy on HF asked me if the ladder at Toolinna Cove had been removed. I had to admit that we didn't check, as a violent storm was brewing as we looked over the edge, and we had to get out and pitch camp before it hit. I had heard that after CALM removed all access, someone had reinstalled some gear, but I can't confirm it.
The campsite at the scarp near Pt Culver amongst the banksias is still nice and we caught a few nice whiting and a magnificent flathead there.
cheers,
Gerry
Back Expand Un-Read 0 Moderator

Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:01

Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:01
Hi Gerry


Thanks for that update. When we were there in June 05 we had the same problem with the seaweed. It was 2 metres deep in places close to Israelite Bay and so we took the Telegraph Track to Wattle Camp. Once there at the waters edge there was still too much seaweed so we opted for a trek across the salt pans. I remember remarking that of it rained you would be cactus taking that track. About 15km east of Wattle Camp the track just disappeared. We walked 500 metres in either direction through the rough undergrowth but found nothing and so down onto the beach we went. It was the wrong time of the year to do this as the sea comes right up to the base of the dunes at High Tide but we madeit (at LOw Tide) with some heartstopping moments through some very slushy sections at the base of the dunes.

I woudn't be game to drive below the seaweed line though...lol

Image Could Not Be Found

It is a magical drive and one that I would like to do again sometime in the future. When we were at Toolinna Cove the rope ladder(rope with knots in it) was still to be seen and so was the windlass but all the other gear had been removed to an open space about 500 metres inland.

Image Could Not Be Found


Cheers

AnswerID: 339624

Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 14:29

Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 14:29
Thanks for the comments, Willem. Re the telegraph track through the salt lakes, it is clearly visible on Google Earth, but obviously not at ground level!
And there's a track, about 80km long, from east of Wattle Camp up over the Wylie Scarp westwards to Balbinya! God only knows why the track was cut! I was reading an entry in the visitor's book at Balbinya and someone had followed it right through to the scarp. "They must've been pi$$ed at the time it was put through" was the comment left in the book!
Was all a pity, as I was trying to tie up some loose ends on this trip checking out bits I hadn't seen before, and Wattle Camp was one of them. The weather we experienced was abysmal, really strange for this time of year. There was much flooding on the flats between the dunes below the camping spot at the Wylie Scarp pass, something I'd never seen before. And of course the salt lakes further west.
We did a trip a few years back in early October, and while the seaweed wasn't a problem, the short beach was, and it was very soft and slow going. On an even earlier trip, managed to do the 90km in about 2 hours, including camera stops. This trip, we were able to maintain about 70-80km/h before we hit the seaweed. So it's pretty changeable.
cheers
Gerry
0
FollowupID: 607193

Follow Up By: wendys - Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 17:50

Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 17:50
Hi Willem,
love the oops - gutter pic. What was the story?
0
FollowupID: 607234

Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 18:06

Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 18:06
Wendys

In May this year I led a small party north along the WA?NT Border via Lake Mackay, Lake Hazlett, Lake Wills and Lake Dennis. We went in search of Labbi Labbi waterhole which we found after a while.

On leaving the following morning I decide to drive down the valley but was thwarted by a small but deep gutter. So I reversed(trailer and all) and found another gutter. Eventually turned around and drove over what seemed like flat ground. Trouble was a spinifex bush had grown over another gutter and I did not see the approaching danger. Luckily I was only crawling along when we took a nosedive

About an hour, two winches, and an anchor vehicle and we were on our way again.

You can read the story here


Cheers
0
FollowupID: 607237

Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 18:29

Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 18:29
Hi Gerry

The track you are talking about is the one we couldn't find. From Wattle Camp the track runs along the edge of the pan and then stops after about 15km as mentioned before . I have actually seen where that track comes out near the Wylie Scarp camp.

Looking at doing a beach run as much as I can from Port Lincoln to Esperance or vice versa towards the end of 2010. Have to do the run at the start of summer as the tides recede during the summer months.


Cheers
0
FollowupID: 607242

Reply By: get outmore - Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 14:45

Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 14:45
hey that was me you were talking to on the HF.
i was trying to warn you of soft sand over sea weed near israelite but you were aware of it - it has trapped many an unaware including a nationally recognized tour guide.

i have been there twice. The first time there was no beach with the waves lapping the base of the dunes and the second time it was a very low tide so was able to run under the weed and it was a very easy trip.
certainly an area which cant be taken for granted

for moer info on the area
Challange in isolation by john R Bridges tells the stories of the establishments of the stations in the area
AnswerID: 339685

Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 19:41

Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 19:41
Ah yes, thanks for getting back! We appreciated the warning at the time, even tho we were aware of the issues. First time I'd been called on selcall, so now I know it works!
Have done the trip 4 times now, this time with my brother, as my grandfather was on the original telegraph in the 1890's, so this time it was revisiting family connections.
And yes, this trip exhibited the worst seaweed we'd seen. In the past, we managed to duck around the heads of seaweed when the waves washed out (scary!) and get far enough around the coast to the west before ducking up behind the beach, but this time that wasn't even a consideration, it was so bad.
Have been looking for more info on the area, so that book reference I will chase up.
Drop me a line on gezza90 at amnet dot net dot a u
- keen to discuss more.
regards
Gerry
0
FollowupID: 607256

Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 20:10

Sunday, Dec 14, 2008 at 20:10
Hi Gerry

Thanks for the update.
We are still headed that way after Xmas. leaving Perth 26/12.


cheers

Phil



There is a lot of difference between
‘Human Being’ and ‘Being Human’.





Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  Send Message

AnswerID: 339738

Sponsored Links