Winches

Do you remember how the car felt after the bullbar was fitted. I was amazed when mine was on, it transformed the handling and made it worse- makes me wonder about the dayt when I fit a winch. With the dosh you save, how about a snatch block or two, for the days when you MAY need the winch, meanwhile your handling etc won't be as bad as it could be??????

I would go with the ARB boys.... I am sure they would have sold you the dearer winch if they thought it would be the right one for the vehicle...
If you only need it for the every now and then moment like me when it needs to pull you up the last part of a sand dune or you get stuck in the middle of a creek etc..... a 9500 would be fine........ if you need to winch your car straight up the side of a cliff,, well maybe the other one is needed....
but if the going gets a little tough for my little 9000lb'er i just break out a snatch block or two and sit back and relax............_____________________________________________

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Someone once told me that once you put Diff Locks on you'll be guaranteed to need a winch.......

I found my 9000 X9 a breeze to get my 80 series out of a bad situation @ Toolangi on the weekend , the X9 weighs in at 50 kg and dropped the front end almost an inch , I also have a snach block , just in case

Majority of people with winches never use them Lockers or not.

12,000LB winch is a HUGE item, you dont need one.. If your going with lockers, again if your not sure, a 8000LB High Mount would serve you better.

9500HS would be very good, they have good reports on the net about them.

Hi All
Truckster hit the nail on the head a 12000lb winch is actually twice the weight as the 9500lb.
The comment about diff locks getting you into trouble and needing the winch to get out is also quite valid.
As I said once before, "What a great site this is" the info and responses both positive and negative are terrific.
If the world talked more we all might learn to be better off.
Keep up the comments.

Thanks
John

You might also want to keep in mind that ARB only guarantee their winch bars with the correct rated winch so if you fit a higher capacity winch you are on your own if it causes a problem.

If your serious about a 12000lb warn, Alan at Outback Accessories in Seaford has one second hand forsale, looks BRAND NEW, I was just there..

He also has a X9 forsale

Hi john and others than are new to all this winching stuff. it would be worth takeing a look at this site

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Recovery/index.html

before you go buying winching gear. take into consideration what your truck will weigh fully loaded then apply the load factors on this site to give yourself an idea of what you are doing when winching! 1.5 times the weigh might not really be enough! ie 3000 kg truck 45 degree incline bogged up to the axles(it happens) is equal to twice vehicial weight(for being bogged) plus another 75% vehcial weight for the slope factor equals about 8,250kg's not pounds, while using a few snatch blocks might allow the winch to move the load the wire rope is only designed to take a bit over 4000kg when it's new, that 12,000 pound winch might be a better idea than first meets the eye!

I don't mean to panic anyone but you can't defy the laws of physics without the possibility of it biting you on the butt.

will a 4000kg(9000lb) winch move it? yes with a few blocks, wich one is going to be safer & possibly faster to use the 9000lb or the 12000lb? the 12,000lb. on the other hand are you really intending to get that stuck????? that often?? who knows!
remenber to use a crain you need training & a special licence, in the case of moving a stuck 4$wd you are just doing it sideways!

Oh and why after going metric so many years ago do they insist on quoting in pounds (other to make things sound bigger ie 4000kg winch verse 9000lb?)

Safe travelling