200 series land Cruiser diesel, economy

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 17:26
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I am thinking of purchasing a 200 series turbo diesel and would appreciate actual owners (only) to give me an idea of what the real economy is for city, freeway, and towing a camper trailer.

I am currently driving a petrol 4.8 auto Patrol and best I have ever achieved is 19lt/100, so you can see how I drive.
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Reply By: Member - John & Julie ACT - Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 18:04

Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 18:04
We bought our LC200 V8 turbo diesel in April 2008 and have a kedron ATV van, fully loaded around 3 1/2 ton. We did nearly 20,000 kms in QLD in five months last year and have been really pleased with the economy. On the highway with no van we get around 11 lt/100km, towing varied between 18 and 22lt/100km with the 22 being into a very strong head wind in north QLD in September. Around town economy is about 14-15.
We love the cruiser and found that with the van on, it hardly seems to notice the extra weight-cruises up hills with ease and overtaking isn't a trouble either.
Hope this is some help.
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Follow Up By: Boobook2 - Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 18:16

Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 18:16
Same same.

It is frugal if you are but gets thirsty when you put the foot down.

Also I have a second set of 33" muddies and consumption goes up about 2 - 3 l/100 km.

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Reply By: jpfe8851 - Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 18:11

Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 18:11
Hey pling,

Understand where you are coming from. Had a 100 Series petrol Cruiser and it was never better than 20l/100k and 28l/100k towing my Phoenix van.

Spent last 4 year with a 4l Prado and that was good without towing but shot up to the Cruiser's range towing.

Got a 200 TD last August and couldn't be happier. He's the run down I'm getting. Bear in mind your actual results will vary depending on driving style and it is tempting to use the power. But driven sensibly:

Round town: 12.5-13.5l/100k is pretty average per tank.
Now that doesn't include much stop start, okay?

Highway: 9l/100k driven light, 10l/100k at 110 cruise varying terrain.

Towing 2.5t van: 19l/100k. That's driving at 100k highway and at 80k on the twisty bits.

Sand: 20l/100k and up if very loose. Might have to go lower than 18psi I think. This is my only disappointment really.

I've only got 8000k on the clock and not done enough towing to be certain that is going to be sustainable on longer trips, but I do expect it to get better as it loosens up. I must say that as a vehicle it is pleasant and comfortable to drive, bloddy capable with what I've done so far, and only thing I would like improved is take off throttle response. I feel it's been tuned to take off a little sluggishly or you would soon enjoy the power too much and kill its economy. Driven hard and fast, these numbers will raise pretty quickly.

Clearly I'm a Toyota man but have experience in many 4x4's and this is without a doubt the best 4x4 I've driven and that includes the boss's supercharged RR Sport, but don't tell him! The RR's quick of course, but I know what car I would rather spend a vacation in...

Hope this helps you.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Member - Roscoe ET (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 18:52

Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 18:52
If you put a sports exhaust system on and a free flowing air filter you should eliminate most of that turbo lag, increase the power/ torque and you will improve the economy.

Those standard mufflers really do create a fair bit of back pressure which hinders the turbo to spool up. I could be wrong but I don't believe it will be anything to do with tuning but more to do with the engine pushing exhaust gas through a fairly heavily baffled muffler.

Besides I think you will get a beautiful V8 rumble from that engine.
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Follow Up By: Dunco (NSW) - Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:27

Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:27
I have a 100 Petrol cruiser and I get far better than what you indicated above mate. You must've had a very heavy foot.

Around town 16l/100
Highway 13-14l/100
Towing 20-21l/100 (2.5t van)

I sit on 95km/h towing

I don't disagree with your 200 figures, but I do with your 100 figures...or did you lift them up to make the 200 look better ?
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Follow Up By: jpfe8851 - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 00:10

Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 00:10
Dunco, how could you suggest such a thing? I should have said my 100 was a 1999 6cyl 4 speed auto. They were horribly thirsty. Your numbers look like the V8. If you got those from the 6, I'd be really surprised. I like performance but I am no lead foot either. I was running 33" tyres though.

Roscoe, that looks a good suggestion. The TD V8 is a beaut sounding engine from inside. Like a diesel outside but from inside you'd think it was a petrol V8. Similar power too.

When things pick up and I stop watching my spending, I'll add the exhaust mods to the list of things to do along with Bar, Snorkel, Springs/Shocks etc. Already swapped the rubber though. I've had a set of 18 inch Mickey Thompson ATZs on the new Dick Cepek Torque wheels almost since new and they've been sensational with the little bit of off-roading I've managed so far.

Cheers,
John
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Reply By: lozza - Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:05

Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:05
Great vehicle I get 11.3 around town and 18 to 19 towing a 22ft Southern Cross van close to 3 ton (not the stolen one).
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Reply By: lees fishin - Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:16

Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:16
around town i get 15-16lt, highway driving @ 110km 13lt and towing average 22lt. i must ad that changing tyres,adding roof racks ,bull bars,rasied suspension etc etc increases economy by approx 2-3lt .other wise great 4wd,i am very happy with it. lee
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:19

Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 19:19
Hullo Pling,

You'll get great mountains of info about the LC200 from here:

http://www.lcool.org/forum/

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Reply By: Warstar - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:56

Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:56
Guys, with that double overdrive arrangement in the auto 200, what gear do you tow your vans in??
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 14:46

Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 14:46
Use the S setting (semi-manual) and choose 5th as the top gear.

Even leaving it in auto, it will never get into 6th or hardly at all into 5th.

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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 22:25

Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 22:25
I wonder how many more 200 series Toyota would sell if they offered a manual like most other manufacturers?? Michael
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:44

Saturday, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:44
Probably none, because the manual box offered overseas, and here in the TDV8 70 series, is from the 100 series and the engine is detuned to match it.

151kW as opposed to 195, and 431Nm as opposed to 650 with the auto box.

No doubt there are some Toyota workers hunched over a design desk right now working on a new manual gearbox, but it's the auto for me.

I'll never buy another manual 4wd.

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