Battery Charger
Submitted: Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 21:50
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sorry if this has been asked before but I have done a search and found nothing.
I have purchased a honda eu10i generator to charge the battery on the camper trailer and have been told I should charge it through a battery charger instead of directly off the genny.
I will be running an engel 60l and some 12v fluoros of the battery. The fridge will generally last around 1.5 days when the battery is fully charged.
My question is; what sort of battery charger do I need to keep the power up to the fridge without continuously running the genny?
thanks in advance.
Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 22:07
Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 22:07
The bigger 3 Stage the better, something like this:
CTek Charger
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Reply By: autosparky - Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 23:12
Thursday, Jan 22, 2009 at 23:12
just run the fridge on 240v
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 14:56
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 14:56
Hi
The way I read it He doesn't want to run the genny ALL THE TIME.
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Follow Up By: 100 Series - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 18:01
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 18:01
Thats right, I would prefer to run it as little as possible
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Reply By: Gronk - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 00:54
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 00:54
What size battery have you got ??
General rule of thumb......charger is 20% max of batt A/H...
100A/H batt......20A charger
200A/H batt....40A charger
I have 210A/H batts in the CT and use a 10A Xantrex charger.....but only charge at
home , so time isn't a problem......but if I wanted to do the same as you, then a 30 or 40A charger would go in....
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Reply By: Power to be Free - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 07:56
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 07:56
Good morning all
Rule of thumb is 10 % of battery capacity 10 Amp to a 100 A/h battery. Using a Honda EU 1.0 an ideal charger would be a CTEK 15 Amp and your power problem to charge will be shorter and officiant.
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Reply By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 08:12
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 08:12
What size and chemistry is the battery ?
Regards
Derek from ABR
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Follow Up By: 100 Series - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 18:06
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 18:06
From memory it is a deep cycle and is the size of a standard landcuiser (105 series) diesel battery. Possibly a N077......I think. Unfortunately my camper is not kept at
home and I will have to
check to see exactly what it is.
Thanks for all the advice so far.
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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 19:01
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 19:01
It makes a difference to the size charger you can use based on the batteries.
Your generator will run a 30A charger with ease but if charging a single wet cell N70 size battery there is no need for more than a 20A charger.
If it is a AGM of 100 a/h or more then a 30A charger is better.
The idea is to run the generator as short as possible and use a charger that will boost the battery quickly.
Regards
Derek from ABR
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Reply By: oldtrack123 - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 14:23
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 14:23
HI
" have purchased a honda eu10i generator to charge the battery on the camper trailer and have been told I should charge it through a battery charger instead of directly off the genny.
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That is correct the 12v output from the genny is just that 12v .
iIt is not sufficient to charge a battery. What size charger depends on size of battery ..Repeated fast charging of a battery can seriously shorten it's life.The ideal size for long life is to recharge @ the 20hr rate.But that means it takes that to recharge from flat, but since again for long life a wet lead acid bat should not be discharged below 50% capacity , you would be talking about 10hrs to recharge. A 100amp hr bat with a 5amp charger would do this, but is not practical when running from a genny. A 10HR CHARGE RATE IS STILL VERY ACCEPTABLE, SO DEPENDING ON YOUR BATTERY SIZE YOU COULD USE THAT BASIS.
Any faster rrate will affect bat life , so it depends on what you want to sacrifice.
ALLTHIS DEPENDS ON HOW FAR YOU DISCHARGE THE BAT, when you say 1.5 days , to what state of discharge??, it may be better to get more battery capacity, so you can safely use a bigger charger for a shorter time & not affect bat life.
One other point while recharging the battery turn your fridge up to max cooling, JUST WATCH IT DOESN'T OVER FREEZE THE LETTUCE ETC.this makes the process more efficient , & means the demand from the battery will be reduced some what once the genny is off, DON'T FORGET TO TURN FRIDGE BACK TO NORMAL SETTINGOR YOU WILL HAVE A FLAT BAT VERY QUICK.
Consider all this & then come back if you need more help.
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 14:47
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 14:47
Hi
Since I can't edit, I ment to point out that the 20hr discharge rate is also kindest to the battery but again not very practical, Also the less the discharge between recharging the better for the battery.
I would think that you would consider a 4 or 5 hr charge time as being ok [Iwould] so look at battery size [ amphrs]
& divide by charge time to get charger size.
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 15:23
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 15:23
HIi
Re running fridgre while charging batteries I SHOULD HAVE SAID RUN IT ON 240v.
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Follow Up By: Rolly - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 18:16
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 18:16
Oldtrack123,
This is where the spiral wound AGMs come into their own.
Their preferred charge rates are better than double those of flooded wet cells and require lower voltages to charge fully.
Spiral wound AGM
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 20:05
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 at 20:05
Hi Rolly
No aurgument from me regarding how good they are.
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