Generators in National Parks

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Cheers tony

Thanks Tony. I'll have a look at that site.

Hi Tony
BANNED in all NSW & QLD NAT PARKS & rightly so.
YES there may be some & you may be a considerate user in YOUR OPINION
But many who don't use them may not agree due to MOST being inconsiderate.& I have had plenty of that experience.

Peter. A bit harsh on gen sets. A good one used properly will not annoy any reasonable person, well they do not annoy me anyway (IE a few hours during the day). The $ to set up Solar is not always available to some. Id rather have a misused gen set than misused trail bikes :-). Cheers Tony

You are right about the bikes Tony, but the Mildew gave no indication that cash was determining his decision making process.

And if I am camped in some remote spot and someone comes in and starts a gennie, any sort, I will tell them of my displeasure in no uncertain terms. That is unacceptable behavior IMHO.

If I join someone already in camp, then to the extent of what is reasonable, they set the rules.

Not a new discussion, this one ....................

Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 Motorhome

At the other end of the spectrum is the $99 one , as different in noise making as price from a 'decent one'.( hopefully that made sense )

When touring , had everthing set up for 12v .

Worst person I have encountered put their Gen closer to my camp than theirs ,when confronted , they were only running flouros to play cards .

Have to agree though , you can get some good quiet gens .

Glenn.

Who the hell wants to go camping to listen to a gentle HUM?

Jim how dare you use the word FART on a public forum...

Its generally the devices thats attached to the gennie that can be the issue,Stereos,T.V's etc etc...

Ive actually havnt used mine camping since i bought the bloody thing but lend it to relatives to keep it ticking over.Theres no doubt the sound without the hum is far better...Just nature..


Cheers

"The average wanker who complains about them generally farts louder then a gennie"

Same could be suggested about the "wanker" that fires one up thinking the hum is no issue for anyone else.

Typical of the arrogance shown by people who insist on camping with all the electrical bells and whistles.

"Typical of the arrogance shown by people who insist on camping with all the electrical bells and whistles.


Like a fridge?

Shaker I run two 40 litre Engels and don't need to disturb the peace with a generator.
Other means are available.

I use & will always use a generator as required, if anybody can hear it ... go away, I was there first!

The High Country is a big place, I camp remote & never ever near anybody else.

Also what about bloody music, kids on mini bikes, loud bogan drunks etc etc???

"Also what about bloody music, kids on mini bikes, loud bogan drunks etc etc???"

Yes they also can be arrogant issues along with generators pending on where you are camping.

I'm with you Jim.

Some people just want everything the way they want it and blame the Majority for the problems of the minority.

I have only just bought a gennie and it is fairly quiet and I wouldn't run it unless I wanted to boost up the battery, or run something that needed it...but it would NEVER be at night when other wankers, camping, are listening to their loud music, or talking like they were across a river from the person they were talking to.

And don't say it doesn't happen folks !!

**talking like they were across a river from the person they were talking to.**




I CAN HEAR WHAT YOUR SAYING DUNCS,I'M WITH YA,Oh bleep e my left boot slipped into the river.... NITE !

Two of the worst nights we had on our latest trip was when we had set up and having a coldie, and a van pulls in right next to us, closes every thing up, turns on a gennie (cheaper model by the look of it) and the air con, and then sits in the van having a drink and watching TV. Missed a good sunset, and wrecked the evening for us after a long day's drive. The gennie was louder than my engine idling, and the old paj diesel is not quiet.

They came out for a sit in the cool of the evening about 8pm, on the opposite side of their van to us and the gennie. So I started walking around and asked them if they knew where the noise was coming from? They turned the gennie off about 9pm, after running it for 3 hours.

Almost felt like putting some sugar in the fuel tank at one stage, but desisted.

Had the same thing happen another night.

The alternator on our car is enough doing some trips to last us for weeks keeping the 12v lights and the 29l engel going.

John,

That is the classic example of how not to use a gennie.

Generators, like car stereos and motor bikes, have the propensity to be offensive if used irresponsibly.

Cheers,

Jim.

Agree Jim,

Couple of other people did pullin after us, and set up a good 50m away.
They had honda gennies, and you could hardly hear them even near their van. The loud gennie most probably spoilt it for them too!
There is always one clown who doesn't think about what they are doing and assumes they have the right to do whatever they need.

Don't put everyone in the same basket.... some of us are courteous with gennie's...and courteous across the board.

I don't worry about people too much as we are all different...and thank god for that!!!

And John, if I want to take all the bells & whistles camping then I will do so. Do you just go with a bedroll like the old cowboys, or do you have a tent, lights, camp ovens, radio, Razors, soap, etc etc etc.

I am not arrogant mate, it is what I LIKE...I don't have to be like you..

Here we go again - generator users trying to ram it home to non users (responsible travellers) that gennies are OK - anywhere/anytime. Mate if it's what YOU like then you better stay out of MY camp.

hahaha...good for you Dio...resorting to threats :-)

Funny thing about Australia is that I can go most places and do whatever I like as long as I don't offend or harm anyone. So guess what mate...

Ha Ha, this is becoming a funny thread.

Go the gennies. I have solar, batteries, and genny.

Use genny when cloudy to charge up battery for fridge, I class that as essential, its a honda, its quiet, and is only ever on for max 3hrs in middle of day, when cloudy.

No one has ever asked me to switch it off, youd never know it was on. And if someone does.... luck and cough come to mind...lol

Dunco FYI

Soap does not require a generator.

A razor does not require a generator.

A radio does not require a generator.
(P.S. I own and use several different types.)

A camp oven goes in the fire so also does not require a generator.

Camp lights don't require a generator.

And tents don't require a generator.

I don't lack for anything when I go bush and I don't need a generator to disturb the peace that I seek when I do go bush.

This thread has clearly shown the arrogance of those few that think they can't do without a generator and the disturbance it causes others.

Why bother camping if you need the air con, TV and microwave oven etc, just stay home or go to a motel if you can't live without all the bells and whistles.

I was always taught never to say never.

So I am not going to say I will never use a gennie. :o)

I can see their uses and if I had to they could be a good solution to a particular problem, when solar may not apply or the load is heavy, such as AC on a 40 deg day.

But I prefer not to where I can, as I think most people do.

My 4 biggest camper generator hates:
1) running generator to run the wifes haridryer

2) running genny all day to run fridge on freeze, why? to make ice. Why do you need ice out bush? to have champagne on ice stupid.

3) running genny all night to have 3 very large camp floodlights that actually lit up the whole campground. So not only did we have to put up with the annoying buzz but also these great big floodlights blinding us everytime we looked in their direction! At least we didn't need to use our lights that night!

4) overloading the genny to power the electric toaster.

NONE of these are needed when out bush. Inconsiderate campers.

Barnesy

1. Get rid of wife or give her a crew cut

2. Drink beer...no need for ice stupid

3. Get rid of the circus tent and buy a smaller rig

4. Um...are you stoopid, or drunk

You do what YOU want and I will do what I want. If I annoy you, have the pump to come and tell me...away from the computer keyboard.

There must be a lot of big girls camping out there in in this wonderful land...none of them willing to have a quiet little word to someone that is encroaching on their peace. They would rather have a whinge and whine here, hidden behind the computer screen.

Yawn !!!!!

So much for the ANZAC tradition of Aussies having a bloody go in life. Happy travels everyone.

Dunco, did I say I didn't tell these loud buggers to keep the noise down?

So annoying people using because they are unwilling to let go of their mod cons is an ANZAC tradition is it? Get a life.

(Bugger my membership has expired)

Barnesy

Yawn......

I found this site which has a link to the parks in WA that will allow generators and the times etc

http://www.dec.wa.gov.au/parks-and-recreation/visitor-information/camping-in-national-parks-and-other-recreation-areas.html

How many of the genny brigade have an under bonnet shower as well? Double trouble. 2 wrongs still don't make it right ;-)
Cheers Craig............

I don't need my gennie for a shower....

Hi Wayne

I saw your note in another thread....

I've always worked on the principal that the situation you walk away from is the one you get to control.

That isn't to say that 'reasoanble' people could not be approached and asked to modify behaviuor, but again I've seen plenty of 'reasonable' people who change their demeanour once challenged.

My family and I are out there to enjoy it....and mind you I'm no wilting wall-flower, just not interested in dealing with situations that may get out of control.....easier to move on if it bothers that much.

Cheers

The Landy - I tend to agree with you about moving on but moving is not always an option.

For example, recently we travelled to Victoria to see the SE coastline, High Country, SW Coast (Great Ocean Rd) and then travel to Mildura along the Murray. Naturally we needed to save for a while afford something like this that was going to take us more that a month.

Where possible we free camp for the reasons that many here could relate to, but for the first part of our trip the Missus booked us into a paid campsite at Cape Conran for 8 days so that we could enjoy day trips and not worry too much about our camper, etc.

After a day a mob of about a dozen showed-up that had the lot. Kids that started screaming at 6am, folk that needed to slam their doors, generators, noisey camp fire sessions and on & on it went. I thought I was going to go nuts.

But like what could I do that wouldn't make the holiday worse than they already managed?

A doubt reporting them for later action by some authority would solve my problem.

Anyway the good news is that after that it was mainly back to bush camping and once again I felt that I had things in my control rather than the control of others. And yep if I didn't kike something I would simply move on to avoid altercations.

But what would others do?

Wayne, you only have to spend a bit of time here to realise that there is plenty of behind the keyboard bravado!

well said, ob.
Val.

Do be sorry. Just ignore the side arguments and look for the info you need.

Some valid points raised, and for your information, most NT parks have a gennie area and a non gennie area, keeps everybody happy.

Dont be sorry ....

Your question invoked a whole bunch of answers that typify the sort of responses you are likely to get on the road.

Personally I hate the damn things ... but I put up with the racket in large gazetted camping areas if I have to camp there - although I found its just as quiet parked between two refridgerated semis in a truck stop - in most cases.

In remote location campsites I enjoy nothing more than having some one come up to me and ask if they can recharge batteries with their genny after a few days ... because then I get to say ... sure mate - do it about lunchtime when we are all making a noise.

On the first and second days ... they get told they can use my esky full of ice or the wet bag hanging in the tree.

Please do not be sorry. Go the solar and if you want to be fully able to be self sufficient also get a 1kva inverter Gen set. They are quite and if you use them as most do just to top up your batteries as needed, no one has the right to complain (I place it well away from the direction of another camp and behind a shield, bush if available and downwind). We are all out there to enjoy our country with as little impact we can. I think the generator haters are a bit over the top on the issue, especially if you only run it a few hours in the arvo. A camp at night with people drinking and loud talk is much more annoying than a quite geni with its constant hum. I have lived in large & loud genny run camps, so I got used to the constant hum I suppose. But I could never get use to the rise and fall of drunken voices.
There are a few heated topics on this forum that will always get this response - as said above keep the good points ignore the pig headed and keep posting your questions.
Have fun with your setup and hope to meet you and your gen set in any camp that allows it. Cheers Tony

Hi Axel
Axel [ the real one ] replied:
Contrary to some of the replies you have recieved , gen sets are NOT banned in all Qld Nat parks , and solar is not the be all and end all either ,, camp grounds along the Gibb river rd for example have generator specific areas .
I always thought the Gibb rv rd was in WA OR has your gps screwed up.
Be careful , you might get lost

oldtrack 123 , before u make blanket statements as you did above ,get your facts straight , u stated that portable gen sets are banned in ALL QLD + NSW national parks ,, my reply was to point out that a total ban is NOT the case at all ,be it NSW -QLD -SA - Vic -Tas - NT - ACT and WA and anywhere else that is classed as part of Australia.